On Tue 03-05-16 14:17:19, Jan Kara wrote: > The question remains how common a pattern where throttling of background > writeback delays also something else is. I'll schedule a couple of > benchmarks to measure impact of your patches for a wider range of workloads > (but sadly pretty limited set of hw). If ext3 is the only one seeing > issues, I would be willing to accept that ext3 takes the hit since it is > doing something rather stupid (but inherent in its journal design) and we > have a way to deal with this either by enabling delayed allocation or by > turning off the writeback throttling... So I've run some benchmarks on a machine with 6 GB of RAM and SSD with queue depth 32. The filesystem on the disk was XFS this time. I've found couple of regressions. A clear one is with dbench (version 4). The average throughput numbers look like: Baseline WBT Hmean mb/sec-1 30.26 ( 0.00%) 18.67 (-38.28%) Hmean mb/sec-2 40.71 ( 0.00%) 31.25 (-23.23%) Hmean mb/sec-4 52.67 ( 0.00%) 46.83 (-11.09%) Hmean mb/sec-8 69.51 ( 0.00%) 64.35 ( -7.42%) Hmean mb/sec-16 91.07 ( 0.00%) 86.46 ( -5.07%) Hmean mb/sec-32 115.10 ( 0.00%) 110.29 ( -4.18%) Hmean mb/sec-64 145.14 ( 0.00%) 134.97 ( -7.00%) Hmean mb/sec-512 93.99 ( 0.00%) 133.85 ( 42.41%) There were also some losses in a filebench webproxy workload (I can give you exact details of the settings if you want to reproduce it). Also, and this really puzzles me, I've seen higher read latencies in some cases (I've verified they are not just noise by rerunning the test for kernel with writeback throttling patches). For example with the following fio job file: [global] direct=0 ioengine=sync runtime=300 time_based invalidate=1 blocksize=4096 size=10g # Just random value, we are running time based workload log_avg_msec=10 group_reporting=1 [writer] nrfiles=1 filesize=1g fdatasync=256 readwrite=randwrite numjobs=4 [reader] # Simulate random reading from different files, switching to different file # after 16 ios. This somewhat simulates application startup. new_group filesize=100m nrfiles=20 file_service_type=random:16 readwrite=randread I get the following results: Throughput Baseline WBT Hmean kb/sec-writer-write 591.60 ( 0.00%) 507.00 (-14.30%) Hmean kb/sec-reader-read 211.81 ( 0.00%) 137.53 (-35.07%) So both read and write throughput have suffered. And latencies don't offset for the loss either: FIO read latency Min latency-read 1383.00 ( 0.00%) 1519.00 ( -9.83%) 1st-qrtle latency-read 3485.00 ( 0.00%) 5235.00 (-50.22%) 2nd-qrtle latency-read 4708.00 ( 0.00%) 15028.00 (-219.20%) 3rd-qrtle latency-read 10286.00 ( 0.00%) 57622.00 (-460.20%) Max-90% latency-read 195834.00 ( 0.00%) 167149.00 ( 14.65%) Max-93% latency-read 273145.00 ( 0.00%) 200319.00 ( 26.66%) Max-95% latency-read 335434.00 ( 0.00%) 220695.00 ( 34.21%) Max-99% latency-read 537017.00 ( 0.00%) 347174.00 ( 35.35%) Max latency-read 991101.00 ( 0.00%) 485835.00 ( 50.98%) Mean latency-read 51282.79 ( 0.00%) 49953.95 ( 2.59%) So we have reduced the extra high read latencies which is nice but on average there is no change. And another fio jobfile which doesn't look great: [global] direct=0 ioengine=sync runtime=300 blocksize=4096 invalidate=1 time_based ramp_time=5 # Let the flusher thread start before taking measurements log_avg_msec=10 group_reporting=1 [writer] nrfiles=1 filesize=$((MEMTOTAL_BYTES*2)) readwrite=randwrite [reader] # Simulate random reading from different files, switching to different file # after 16 ios. This somewhat simulates application startup. new_group filesize=100m nrfiles=20 file_service_type=random:16 readwrite=randread The throughput numbers look like: Hmean kb/sec-writer-write 24707.22 ( 0.00%) 19912.23 (-19.41%) Hmean kb/sec-reader-read 886.65 ( 0.00%) 905.71 ( 2.15%) So we've got significant hit in writes not really offset by a big increase in reads. Read latency numbers look like (I show the WBT numbers for two runs just so that one can see how variable the latency numbers are because I was puzzled by very high max latency for WBT kernels - quartiles seem rather stable higher percentiles and min/max are rather variable): Baseline WBT WBT Min latency-read 1230.00 ( 0.00%) 1560.00 (-26.83%) 1100.00 ( 10.57%) 1st-qrtle latency-read 3357.00 ( 0.00%) 3351.00 ( 0.18%) 3351.00 ( 0.18%) 2nd-qrtle latency-read 4074.00 ( 0.00%) 4056.00 ( 0.44%) 4022.00 ( 1.28%) 3rd-qrtle latency-read 5198.00 ( 0.00%) 5145.00 ( 1.02%) 5095.00 ( 1.98%) Max-90% latency-read 6594.00 ( 0.00%) 6370.00 ( 3.40%) 6130.00 ( 7.04%) Max-93% latency-read 11251.00 ( 0.00%) 9410.00 ( 16.36%) 6654.00 ( 40.86%) Max-95% latency-read 14769.00 ( 0.00%) 13231.00 ( 10.41%) 10306.00 ( 30.22%) Max-99% latency-read 27826.00 ( 0.00%) 28728.00 ( -3.24%) 25077.00 ( 9.88%) Max latency-read 80202.00 ( 0.00%) 186491.00 (-132.53%) 141346.00 (-76.24%) Mean latency-read 5356.12 ( 0.00%) 5229.00 ( 2.37%) 4927.23 ( 8.01%) I have run also other tests but they have mostly shown no significant difference. Honza -- Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxxx> SUSE Labs, CR -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html