On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:20:22AM -0400, Eric Sandeen wrote: > > > On 4/14/16 10:17 PM, Dave Chinner wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 09:57:07AM +0200, Florian Margaine wrote: > >> This lets userland get the filesystem freezing status, aka whether the > >> filesystem is frozen or not. This is so that an application can know if > >> it should freeze the filesystem or if it isn't necessary when taking a > >> snapshot. > > > > freezing nests, so there is no reason for avoiding a freeze when > > doing a snapshot. > > Sadly, no: > > # xfs_freeze -f /mnt/test > # xfs_freeze -f /mnt/test > xfs_freeze: cannot freeze filesystem at /mnt/test: Device or resource busy > > It used to, but it was broken^Wchanged quite some time ago. Ugh. Block device freeze nesting still works (i.e. freeze_bdev, as snapshots from DM would use), but I didn't realise (or had forgetten) that superblock level freeze nesting had been removed... > > Indeed, if you don't wrap freeze/thaw around a > > snapshot, then if the fs is thawed while the snapshot is in progress > > then you are going to get a corrupt snapshot.... > > Yep. > > IMHO what really needs to happen is to fix freeze to allow nesting > again. Probably. I quick dig shows nesting was intentionally broken more than 5 years ago in making the freeze ioctl work on btrfs. commit 18e9e5104fcd9a973ffe3eed3816c87f2a1b6cd2 Author: Josef Bacik <josef@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue Mar 23 10:34:56 2010 -0400 Introduce freeze_super and thaw_super for the fsfreeze ioctl ..... The only new gotcha is multiple calls to the fsfreeze ioctl will return EBUSY if the fs is already frozen. I thought this was a better solution than adding a freeze counter to the super_block, but if everybody hates this idea I'm open to suggestions. Thanks, .... Not sure many people noticed that at the time.... > A way to query freeze state might be nice, I think, but yeah, it's > racy, so you can't depend on it - but it might be useful in the "huh, > IO is failing, what's going on? Oh, it's frozen, ok" scenario... So maybe we should just add the frozen state to /proc/self/mountinfo or something similar, then people who think it matters can shoot themselves in the foot all they want without us needing to care about it. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html