On 02/14/2016 01:18 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:14:39PM -0800, Daniel Walker wrote:
From: Khalid Mughal <khalidm@xxxxxxxxx>
Currently there is no way to figure out the droppable pagecache size
from the meminfo output. The MemFree size can shrink during normal
system operation, when some of the memory pages get cached and is
reflected in "Cached" field. Similarly for file operations some of
the buffer memory gets cached and it is reflected in "Buffers" field.
The kernel automatically reclaims all this cached & buffered memory,
when it is needed elsewhere on the system. The only way to manually
reclaim this memory is by writing 1 to /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches. But
this can have performance impact. Since it discards cached objects,
it may cause high CPU & I/O utilization to recreate the dropped
objects during heavy system load.
This patch computes the droppable pagecache count, using same
algorithm as "vm/drop_caches". It is non-destructive and does not
drop any pages. Therefore it does not have any impact on system
performance. The computation does not include the size of
reclaimable slab.
Why, exactly, do you need this? You've described what the patch
does (i.e. redundant, because we can read the code), and described
that the kernel already accounts this reclaimable memory elsewhere
and you can already read that and infer the amount of reclaimable
memory from it. So why isn't that accounting sufficient?
We need it to determine accurately what the free memory in the system
is. If you know where we can get this information already please tell,
we aren't aware of it. For instance /proc/meminfo isn't accurate enough.
As to the code, I think it is a horrible hack - the calculation
does not come for free. Forcing iteration all the inodes in the
inode cache is not something we should allow users to do - what's to
stop someone just doing this 100 times in parallel and DOSing the
machine?
Yes it is costly.
Or what happens when someone does 'grep "" /proc/sys/vm/*" to see
what all the VM settings are on a machine with a couple of TB of
page cache spread across a couple of hundred million cached inodes?
It a) takes a long time, b) adds sustained load to an already
contended lock (sb->s_inode_list_lock), and c) isn't configuration
information.
We could make it "echo 4 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_cache" then you "cat
/proc/sys/vm/drop_cache_count" that would make the person executing the
command responsible for the latency. So grep wouldn't trigger it.
Daniel
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