On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Quoting Amir Goldstein (amir@xxxxxxxxxxx): >> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Seth Forshee >> <seth.forshee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 05:05:17PM -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote: >> > > > This is what I currently think you want for user ns mounts: >> > > > >> > > > 1. smk_root and smk_default are assigned the label of the backing >> > > > device. >> >> Seth, >> >> There were 2 main concerns discussed in this thread: >> 1. trusting LSM labels outside the namespace >> 2. trusting the content of the image file/loopdev >> >> While your approach addresses the first concern, I suspect it may be placing >> an obstacle in a way for resolving the second concern. >> >> A viable security policy to mitigate the second concern could be: >> - Allow only trusted programs (e.g. mkfs, fsck) to write to 'Loopback' images >> - Allow mount only of 'Loopback' images >> >> This should allow the system as a whole to trust unprivileged mounts based on >> the trust of the entities that had raw access the the fs layout. > > Just to be sure I understand right, you're looking for a way to let > the host admin trust that the kernel's superblock parsers aren't being > fed trash or an exploit? Correct. I do not believe in the direction of auditing file system code to vulnerability free level nor do I think that cryptographically signed file system metadata is the only way to ensure an exploit free unprivileged mount. > >> Alas, if you choose to propagate the backing dev label to contained files, >> they would all share the designated 'Loopback' label and render the policy above >> useless. >> >> Any thoughts on how to reconcile this conflict? >> >> Amir. >> >> >> > > > 2. s_root is assigned the transmute property. >> > > > 3. For existing files: >> > > > a. Files with the same label as the backing device are accessible. >> > > > b. Files with any other label are not accessible. >> > > >> > > That's right. Accept correct data, reject anything that's not right. >> > > >> > > > If this is right, there are a couple lingering questions in my mind. >> > > > >> > > > First, what happens with files created in directories with the same >> > > > label as the backing device but without the transmute property set? The >> > > > inode for the new file will initially be labeled with smk_of_current(), >> > > > but then during d_instantiate it will get smk_default and thus end up >> > > > with the label we want. So that seems okay. >> > > >> > > Yes. >> > > >> > > > The second is whether files with the SMACK64EXEC attribute is still a >> > > > problem. It seems it is, for files with the same label as the backing >> > > > store at least. I think we can simply skip the code that reads out this >> > > > xattr and sets smk_task for user ns mounts, or else skip assigning the >> > > > label to the new task in bprm_set_creds. The latter seems more >> > > > consistent with the approach you've suggested for dealing with labels >> > > > from disk. >> > > >> > > Yes, I think that skipping the smk_fetch(XATTR_NAME_SMACKEXEC, ...) in >> > > smack_d_instantiate for unprivileged mounts would do the trick. >> > > >> > > > So I guess all of that seems okay, though perhaps a bit restrictive >> > > > given that the user who mounted the filesystem already has full access >> > > > to the backing store. >> > > >> > > In truth, there is no reason to expect that the "user" who did the >> > > mount will ever have a Smack label that differs from the label of >> > > the backing store. If what we've got here seems restrictive, it's >> > > because you've got access from someone other than the "user". >> > > >> > > > Please let me know whether or not this matches up with what you are >> > > > thinking, then I can procede with the implementation. >> > > >> > > My current mindset is that, if you're going to allow unprivileged >> > > mounts of user defined backing stores, this is as safe as we can >> > > make it. >> > >> > All right, I've got a patch which I think does this, and I've managed to >> > do some testing to confirm that it behaves like I expect. How does this >> > look? >> > >> > What's missing is getting the label from the block device inode; as >> > Stephen discovered the inode that I thought we could get the label from >> > turned out to be the wrong one. Afaict we would need a new hook in order >> > to do that, so for now I'm using the label of the proccess calling >> > mount. >> > >> > --- >> > >> > diff --git a/security/smack/smack_lsm.c b/security/smack/smack_lsm.c >> > index a143328f75eb..8e631a66b03c 100644 >> > --- a/security/smack/smack_lsm.c >> > +++ b/security/smack/smack_lsm.c >> > @@ -662,6 +662,8 @@ static int smack_sb_kern_mount(struct super_block *sb, int flags, void *data) >> > skp = smk_of_current(); >> > sp->smk_root = skp; >> > sp->smk_default = skp; >> > + if (sb_in_userns(sb)) >> > + transmute = 1; >> > } >> > /* >> > * Initialize the root inode. >> > @@ -1023,6 +1025,12 @@ static int smack_inode_permission(struct inode *inode, int mask) >> > if (mask == 0) >> > return 0; >> > >> > + if (sb_in_userns(inode->i_sb)) { >> > + struct superblock_smack *sbsp = inode->i_sb->s_security; >> > + if (smk_of_inode(inode) != sbsp->smk_root) >> > + return -EACCES; >> > + } >> > + >> > /* May be droppable after audit */ >> > if (no_block) >> > return -ECHILD; >> > @@ -3220,14 +3228,16 @@ static void smack_d_instantiate(struct dentry *opt_dentry, struct inode *inode) >> > if (rc >= 0) >> > transflag = SMK_INODE_TRANSMUTE; >> > } >> > - /* >> > - * Don't let the exec or mmap label be "*" or "@". >> > - */ >> > - skp = smk_fetch(XATTR_NAME_SMACKEXEC, inode, dp); >> > - if (IS_ERR(skp) || skp == &smack_known_star || >> > - skp == &smack_known_web) >> > - skp = NULL; >> > - isp->smk_task = skp; >> > + if (!sb_in_userns(inode->i_sb)) { >> > + /* >> > + * Don't let the exec or mmap label be "*" or "@". >> > + */ >> > + skp = smk_fetch(XATTR_NAME_SMACKEXEC, inode, dp); >> > + if (IS_ERR(skp) || skp == &smack_known_star || >> > + skp == &smack_known_web) >> > + skp = NULL; >> > + isp->smk_task = skp; >> > + } >> > >> > skp = smk_fetch(XATTR_NAME_SMACKMMAP, inode, dp); >> > if (IS_ERR(skp) || skp == &smack_known_star || >> > -- >> > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in >> > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html