On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 06:42:15AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 04:38:56PM +0200, David Sterba wrote: > > Moving the discussion to fsdevel. > > > > Summary: disabling MS_I_VERSION brings some speedups to btrfs, but the > > generic 'noiversion' option cannot be used to achieve that. It is > > processed before it reaches btrfs superblock callback, where > > MS_I_VERSION is forced. > > > > The proposed fix is to add btrfs-specific i_version/noi_version to btrfs, > > to which I object. > > The issue is that you can't overide IS_I_VERSION(inode) because it > looks at the superblock flag, yes? Effectively, yes. > So perhaps IS_I_VERSION should become an inode flag, set by the > filesystem at inode instantiation time, and hence filesystems can > choose on a per-inode basis if they want I_VERSION behaviour or not. Sounds good, I like that. Looking at the proposed usecase again, the performance speedup needs the NODATACOW bit set as well, so setting one more bit is not a big deal. Besides, the global 'noi_version' does not have the expected effect because inode::i_version is incremented unconditionally everywhere (except 1 call site). From that perspective I think that the inode-specific bit is the right approach. > At that point, the behaviour of MS_I_VERSION becomes irrelevant to > the discussion, doesn't it? Agreed. > > xfs also forces I_VERSION if it detects the superblock version 5, so it > > could use the same fix that would work for btrfs. > > XFS is a special snowflake - it updates the I_VERSION only when an > inode is otherwise modified in a transaction, so turning it off > saves nothing. (And yes, timestamp updates are transactional in > XFS). Hence XFS behaviour is irrelevant to the discussion, because > we aren't ever going to turn it off.... Understood. Thanks for the feedback. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html