On 04/13/2015 03:36 PM, Greg KH wrote: > if you are relying on kernel log messages for > specific things to happen in your system, you are doing it wrong as they > can change and disappear in any future kernel release, they are NOT an > api. > Again. I am not doing anything with these messages. Yes messages are not API. I do not need them for a live and running system, at all. I need it for a dead system. for a long dead system. A system that has failed 3 days ago and all I have is the system/application logs and the Kernel logs. I guess I'm antic and you guys have other means for these things, I wish to learn then. So far all we are asking to keep are the logs, Is there something else I need to store from a *past* running system? Until now this gave me a very good place to start my investigation. With empty log files, how do I then proceed? > thanks, > greg k-h It looks like everyone agrees with you though. I wish I knew something you guys know, I do not see how I can analyze failing systems without logs. [I promise this is my last email on the subject] Thanks Boaz -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html