On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 08:00:52PM +0100, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > What the devil does that have to do with seeks, anyway? Exact > > same problem will happen for blocking read() vs. another read() attempts > > on the same descriptor. With perfectly accepted lseek() (which will also > > have to block, as per 2.9.7). > > Yes, the problem here is because this particular file (/proc/xen/xenbus) > blocks the read() operation waiting for new events. Because of said > commit, now it also blocks write() operation used to send some request > (which would result in some response, so unblocking read() call). It > shouldn't be a normal file in the first place... Aha. OK, so you have something that looks a whole lot like a FIFO in that respect, and this semantics simply isn't compatible with read() being atomic wrt write(). So just have that flag explicitly knocked out in your ->open(), preferably with a comment explaining why is that done. Having lseek() is a red herring in that respect - the same problem would exist if that file *did* have something done on lseek(). That's actually what I'm objecting against - "uses nonseekable_open()" is used a weird proxy for "can't have read(), write(), etc. atomic wrt each other". It's not true in either direction - there's a lot of e.g. procfs files that are just fine with current exclusion and there can very well be files _not_ using nonseekable_open() that would break the same way and for the same reasons as /proc/xen/xenbus does. It's trivial to fix - either by explicit filp->f_mode &= ~FMODE_ATOMIC_POS; in xenbus_file_open(), or by adding static inline void no_atomic_pos(struct file *f) { f->f_mode &= ~FMODE_ATOMIC_POS; } somewhere in include/linux/fs.h and having it called in the same xenbus_file_open(). Either way, it ought to come with something along the lines of /* * we can't live with read() vs. write() atomicity, since we use * write() as source of events returned by read() and write() * called after another thread has blocked in read() waiting for * events cannot be required to wait for that read() to finish. */ next to this removal of FMODE_ATOMIC_POS, whichever way we express it... Objections? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html