On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Boaz Harrosh <boaz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 09/10/2014 08:03 PM, Dan Williams wrote: >> Hi Boaz, >> > <> >>> We please need to start somewhere, no? >> >> Sure, but you used the operative term "start", as in you already >> expect to enhance this capability down the road, right? >> > > Yes > >> It's fine to dismiss this request_firmware() based approach, but don't >> mis-characterize it in the process. With regards to describing device >> boundaries, a bus-descriptor-blob handed to the kernel is a superset >> of the capability provided by the kernel command line. It can be >> injected statically at compile time, or dynamically loaded from the >> initrd or the rootfs. It has the added benefit of being flexible to >> change whereas the kernel command line is a more permanent contract >> that we will need to maintain compatibility with in perpetuity. >> > > initrd or rootfs means for me "make install". But I want my fedora > to never make or install. Pre-compiled binary blobs including rootfs and > it needs to work. > >> If you already see this bus description as a "starting" point, then I >> think we need an interface that is more amenable to ongoing change, >> that's not the kernel-command-line. >> > > module-command-line. a module can be loaded via udev and/or module param > can be changed dynamically on the fly. And also be specified via > kernel-command-line. So it is much less permanent contract API than > "rootfs" > > And yes, I intend to add more interfaces. And No! I do not intend to > ever extend this module-param interface, that I can see. This one is > that, which it is right now. Later a sysfs/ objects will enable dynamic > management of devices. So both: initial device list on load - more devices > or removal on the fly, unload all on unload. This is my plan. So right > now I do not see this map= need ever change in the future. Only more > interfaces added in (the very near) future. > Imagine you want to deploy a policy like "use half of the memory provided by the dimm in slot3, i.e. the only one with a battery". That sort of thing gets unwieldy in a command line string compared to a description table format that we can update at will. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html