Doesn't NFS have an intr flag to allow kill -9 to work? Whenever I have had that set it has appeared to work after about 30 seconds or so...without that kill -9 does not work when the nfs server is missing. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 07:50:53 +1000 > NeilBrown <neilb@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:20:07 -0700 Ben Greear <greearb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > On 07/31/2014 01:42 PM, NeilBrown wrote: >> > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 11:00:35 -0700 Ben Greear <greearb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > >> > >> So, this has been asked all over the interweb for years and years, but the best answer I can find is to reboot the system or create a fake NFS server >> > >> somewhere with the same IP as the gone-away NFS server. >> > >> >> > >> The problem is: >> > >> >> > >> I have some mounts to an NFS server that no longer exists (crashed/powered down). >> > >> >> > >> I have some processes stuck trying to write to files open on these mounts. >> > >> >> > >> I want to kill the process and unmount. >> > >> >> > >> umount -l will make the mount go a way, sort of. But process is still hung. umount -f complains: umount2: Device or resource busy umount.nfs: /mnt/foo: >> > >> device is busy >> > >> >> > >> kill -9 does not work on process. >> > > >> > > Kill -1 should work (since about 2.6.25 or so). >> > >> > That is -[ONE], right? Assuming so, it did not work for me. >> >> No, it was "-9" .... sorry, I really shouldn't be let out without my proof >> reader. >> >> However the 'stack' is sufficient to see what is going on. >> >> The problem is that it is blocked inside the "VM" well away from NFS and >> there is no way for NFS to say "give up and go home". >> >> I'd suggest that is a bug. I cannot see any justification for fsync to not >> be killable. >> It wouldn't be too hard to create a patch to make it so. >> It would be a little harder to examine all call paths and create a >> convincing case that the patch was safe. >> It might be herculean task to convince others that it was the right thing >> to do.... so let's start with that one. >> >> Hi Linux-mm and fs-devel people. What do people think of making "fsync" and >> variants "KILLABLE" ?? >> >> I probably only need a little bit of encouragement to write a patch.... >> >> Thanks, >> NeilBrown >> > > > It would be good to fix this in some fashion once and for all, and the > wait_on_page_writeback wait is a major source of pain for a lot of > people. > > So to summarize... > > The problem in a nutshell is that Ben has some cached writes to the > NFS server, but the server has gone away (presumably forever). The > question is -- how do we communicate to the kernel that that server > isn't coming back and that those dirty pages should be invalidated so > that we can umount the filesystem? > > Allowing fsync/close to be killable sounds reasonable to me as at least > a partial solution. Both close(2) and fsync(2) are allowed to return > EINTR according to the POSIX spec. Allowing a kill -9 there seems > like it should be fine, and maybe we ought to even consider letting it > be susceptible to lesser signals. > > That still leaves some open questions though... > > Is that enough to fix it? You'd still have the dirty pages lingering > around, right? Would a umount -f presumably work at that point? > >> > >> > Kernel is 3.14.4+, with some of extra patches, but probably nothing that >> > influences this particular behaviour. >> > >> > [root@lf1005-14010010 ~]# cat /proc/3805/stack >> > [<ffffffff811371ba>] sleep_on_page+0x9/0xd >> > [<ffffffff8113738e>] wait_on_page_bit+0x71/0x78 >> > [<ffffffff8113769a>] filemap_fdatawait_range+0xa2/0x16d >> > [<ffffffff8113780e>] filemap_write_and_wait_range+0x3b/0x77 >> > [<ffffffffa0f04734>] nfs_file_fsync+0x37/0x83 [nfs] >> > [<ffffffff811a8d32>] vfs_fsync_range+0x19/0x1b >> > [<ffffffff811a8d4b>] vfs_fsync+0x17/0x19 >> > [<ffffffffa0f05305>] nfs_file_flush+0x6b/0x6f [nfs] >> > [<ffffffff81183e46>] filp_close+0x3f/0x71 >> > [<ffffffff8119c8ae>] __close_fd+0x80/0x98 >> > [<ffffffff81183de5>] SyS_close+0x1c/0x3e >> > [<ffffffff815c55f9>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b >> > [<ffffffffffffffff>] 0xffffffffffffffff >> > [root@lf1005-14010010 ~]# kill -1 3805 >> > [root@lf1005-14010010 ~]# cat /proc/3805/stack >> > [<ffffffff811371ba>] sleep_on_page+0x9/0xd >> > [<ffffffff8113738e>] wait_on_page_bit+0x71/0x78 >> > [<ffffffff8113769a>] filemap_fdatawait_range+0xa2/0x16d >> > [<ffffffff8113780e>] filemap_write_and_wait_range+0x3b/0x77 >> > [<ffffffffa0f04734>] nfs_file_fsync+0x37/0x83 [nfs] >> > [<ffffffff811a8d32>] vfs_fsync_range+0x19/0x1b >> > [<ffffffff811a8d4b>] vfs_fsync+0x17/0x19 >> > [<ffffffffa0f05305>] nfs_file_flush+0x6b/0x6f [nfs] >> > [<ffffffff81183e46>] filp_close+0x3f/0x71 >> > [<ffffffff8119c8ae>] __close_fd+0x80/0x98 >> > [<ffffffff81183de5>] SyS_close+0x1c/0x3e >> > [<ffffffff815c55f9>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b >> > [<ffffffffffffffff>] 0xffffffffffffffff >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Ben >> > >> > > If it doesn't please report the kernel version and cat /proc/$PID/stack >> > > >> > > for some processes that cannot be killed. >> > > >> > > NeilBrown >> > > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Aside from bringing a fake NFS server back up on the same IP, is there any other way to get these mounts unmounted and the processes killed without >> > >> rebooting? >> > >> >> > >> Thanks, Ben >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> > - -- >> > Ben Greear <greearb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com >> > >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) >> > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ >> > >> > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT2rLiAAoJELbHqkYeJT4OqPgH/0taKW6Be90c1mETZf9yeqZF >> > YMLZk8XC2wloEd9nVz//mXREmiu18Hc+5p7Upd4Os21J2P4PBMGV6P/9DMxxehwH >> > YX1HKha0EoAsbO5ILQhbLf83cRXAPEpvJPgYHrq6xjlKB8Q8OxxND37rY7kl19Zz >> > sdAw6GiqHICF3Hq1ATa/jvixMluDnhER9Dln3wOdAGzmmuFYqpTsV4EwzbKKqInJ >> > 6C15q+cq/9aYh6usN6z2qJhbHgqM9EWcPL6jOrCwX4PbC1XjKHekpFN0t9oKQClx >> > qSPuweMQ7fP4IBd2Ke8L/QlyOVblAKSE7t+NdrjfzLmYPzyHTyfLABR/BI053to= >> > =/9FJ >> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > > -- > Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
