On Mon 2014-06-16 08:25:54, James Bottomley wrote: > On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 14:41 -0700, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > On Friday, June 13, 2014 1:20:39 PM PDT, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > On Fri 2014-06-13 10:49:39, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > to sign up for a ridiculous amount of largely thankless, but > > perhaps fascinating work. Any volunteers? > > The whole suggestion is a non starter: we can't stage core API changes. > Even if we worked out how to do that, the staging trees mostly don't get > the type of in-depth expert review that you need anyway. Well.. most filesystems do not need any core API changes, right? > The Cardinal concern has always been the viability page forking and its > impact on writeback ... and since writeback is our most difficult an > performance sensitive area, the bar to changing it is high. And in this particular case, Daniel was flamed for poor coding style, not for page forking. So staging/ would actually help him -- he could concentrate on core changes without being distracted by unimportant stuff. > When you presented page forking at LSF/MM in 2013, it didn't even stand > up to basic scrutiny before people found unresolved problems: > > http://lwn.net/Articles/548091/ > > After lots of prodding, you finally coughed up a patch for discussion: > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems/85619 > > But then that petered out again. I can't emphasise enough that > iterating these threads to a conclusion and reposting interface > suggestions is the way to proceed on this ... as far as I can tell from > the discussion, the reviewers were making helpful suggestions, even if > they didn't like the original interface you proposed. This obviously needs to be solved, first... Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html