Re: New copyfile system call - discuss before LSF?

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On 03/30/2013 05:57 PM, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
On Mar 30, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Pavel Machek <pavel@xxxxxx>
  wrote:

On Sat 2013-03-30 13:08:39, Andreas Dilger wrote:
On 2013-03-30, at 12:49 PM, Pavel Machek wrote:
Hmm, really? AFAICT it would be simple to provide an
open_deleted_file("directory") syscall. You'd open_deleted_file(),
copy source file into it, then fsync(), then link it into filesystem.

That should have atomicity properties reflected.
Actually, the open_deleted_file() syscall is quite useful for many
different things all by itself.  Lots of applications need to create
temporary files that are unlinked at application failure (without a
race if app crashes after creating the file, but before unlinking).
It also avoids exposing temporary files into the namespace if other
applications are accessing the directory.
Hmm. open_deleted_file() will still need to get a directory... so it
will still need a path. Perhaps open("/foo/bar/mnt", O_DELETED) would
be acceptable interface?
									Pavel
...and what's the big plan to make this work on anything other than ext4 and btrfs?

Cheers,
   Trond

I know that change can be a good thing, but are we really solving a pressing problem given that application developers have dealt with open/rename as the way to get "atomic" file creation for several decades now ?

Regards,

Ric

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