Am Montag, 26. November 2012 schrieb Dave Chinner: > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 09:55:20PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:28:14AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote: > > > fs: revert commit bbdd6808 to fallocate UAPI > > > > > > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Commit bbdd6808 ("fs: reserve fallocate flag codepoint") changes > > > the fallocate(2) syscall interface. The flag that is reserved by > > > this commit is for functionality that has previously been NAKed on > > > the -fsdevel mailing list, and so exists out-of-tree. > > > > Hi Linus, > > > > It doesn't change the interface or break anything; it just reserves a > > bit so that out-of-tree patches don't collide with future > > allocations. There are significant usages of this bit within Google > > and Tao Bao. It is true that there has been significant pushback > > about adding this functionality on linux-fsdevel; > > It's not the fact that you want to reserve a bit that is at issue > here - it's the way it's been pushed into the tree that is the > front-and-center issue. > > > I find it personally frustrating that > > in effect, if enough people scream, they can veto an optional feature > > that might only be implemented by a single file system. > > Having a significant portion of the wider fs development community > disagree with your patches is no reason for subverting the review > process. Besides, that's irrelevant to the issue being discussed, > unless you are describing your motives in an effort to justify your > actions. > > In fact, it's even more disturbing if this was your real motive. > That is, is sounds somewhat like you've just admitted that you > pushed this change silently through the ext4 tree to avoid review > and discussion and that you are blaming the rest of the FS community > for forcing you to take such actions. > > > It's not like there is any shortage of flag bits, so what's the harm > > of reserving the bit? > > The harm has already been done - to the trust we've placed in you as > a maintainer. To argue that the code does no harm is to completely > miss the crux of the issue at hand: principles, process and trust > are far more important in our community than a single line of > code. > > Ted, it comes down to trust. If we can't trust you not to push your > own changes to syscall APIs into the mainline tree via backdoor > channels, then how can we trust you not to push the entire > out-of-tree patch into the kernel the same way? Ping. Linus, while I am interested in an answer I think that Dave and Christoph as Linux filesystem developers actually deserve one (instead of silently being ignored which is also a decision in this matter). I did not see an answer in linux-2.6 commit log as of today so far. Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html