On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 20:47 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 01:06:20AM +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > > > > > I also seriously question the niche of people who want to use a thumb > > > drive to transfer > 4GB files. Try it sometime and see what a painful > > > user experience it is.... > > > > Think for example on consumer devices, for example on most moderns TV > > you can plug a USB memory disk with videos and play them. > > More and more consumer devices, including TV's, are network-enabled. > I'm not at all convinced the USB memory disk model is the one which > makes sense --- you can make a much better user experience work if you > can rely on networking. That way you don't have to move USB storage > devices around, and USB storage devices are *slow* when the most > common types are HDD's and crappy flash devices. How many people are > going to drop several hundred dollars for a USB-attached SSD, when > using a networking transfer mechanism is much more convenient? > > > And I doubt that the majority of this consumer devices are able to read > > nothing more than FAT32 file-systems, so the 4GB limit is a big problem. > > And here is where Microsoft is pushing their exFAT FS since it allows > > working with 4GB+ files without the NTFS overhead. > > We'll see how popular a heavily IP-encumbered file system will be, > especially given that its main use case is for devices which are so > constrained that they can't afford to use a "real file system" (like > ntfs or ext4 or some other more sophisticated file system), but which > nevertheless needs to be able to handle 4GB+ files. My two cents: After seeing microsoft's attack on TomTom over the vfat patents I honesstly would consider it a good move to have an alternative free format available. > I'm sure there will be some use cases that might fit that niche, but > it seems pretty tiny. And this is completely ignoring what might > happen if in the future people take 1gig fiber connections to the home > (such as what many people in Kansas City will be enjoying very > shortly) for granted.... > > > As a side note, it would be possible to write a driver for exFAT and get > > it merged upstream on the Linux Kernel without "breaking any law"? > > Goggling I found an attempt to write such driver but seems that never > > got merged: https://lkml.org/lkml/2009/2/8/24 > > You'll need to talk to a lawyer about that, since that's fundamentally > a legal question. > > Regards, > > - Ted > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
