On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Al Viro <viro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:42:28AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > >> > You say it's a step in the right direction but I don't see why. ?Either >> > we want stat *and* lstat to both be correct and trigger the automount or >> > we are satisfied with the incorrect but well established practice of not >> > triggering on (l)stat. >> > >> > The middle ground makes no sense IMO, there's nothing gained by the >> > differentiated behavior based on LOOKUP_FOLLOW. >> > >> > Can you explain why it's better if stat() tiggers automounts and gives a >> > correct result but lstat() doesn't? >> >> I have to say that this is a very cogent question. >> >> The one thing I've not seen in the thread yet is a description of the >> failure. What does the regression look like? Just "very slow 'ls' with >> some versions of 'ls'" or what? >> >> I'm inclined to apply the patch as a regression fix, but I'll let this >> thread try to convince me for another day.. > > IIRC, that matches traditional SunOS behaviour and it actually does make > sense; you want wildcard expansion and ls -l to be doable even when there's > a stuck NFS server. IOW, non-triggering lstat(2) is a matter of usability... non-triggering lstat() isn't the issue, afaik. We never trigger on lstat. nontriggering *stat()* is the issue. We didn't *use* to trigger on stat() either. Now in 2.6.38+ we do. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html