On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 03:42:42PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote: > Implementation is up to the filesystem. However, XFS does (b) > because: > > 1) it was extremely simple to implement (one of the > advantages of having an exceedingly complex allocation > interface to begin with :P) > 2) conversion is atomic, fast and reliable > 3) it is independent of the underlying storage; and > 4) reads of unwritten extents operate at memory speed, > not disk speed. Yeah, I was thinking that using a device-style TRIM might be better since future attempts to write to it won't require a separate seek to modify the extent tree. But yeah, there are a bunch of advantages of simply mutating the extent tree. While we're on the subject of changes to fallocate, what do people think of FALLOC_FL_EXPOSE_OLD_DATA, which requires either root privileges or (if capabilities are in use) CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE && CAP_MAC_OVERRIDE && CAP_SYS_ADMIN. This would allow a trusted process to fallocate blocks with the extent already marked initialized. I've had two requests for such functionality for ext4 already. (Take for example a trusted cluster filesystem backend that checks the object checksum before returning any data to the user; and if the check fails the cluster file system will try to use some other replica stored on some other server.) - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html