On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 05:36:18PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote: > I have got very little understanding of file system layer, but if I had > to guess, i think following might have happened. > > - We switched from WRITE to WRITE_SYNC for fsync() path. Yes. WRITE_SYNC_PLUG to be exact. Note that we don't juse do this for fsync but also for O_SYNC writes which use ->fsync, and also sync(2) and the unmount path, which all end up submitting WB_SYNC_ALL writeback requests. > - This might have caused issues with idling as for SYNC_WRITE we will idle > in CFQ but probably it is not desirable in certain cases where next set > of WRITES is going to come from journaling thread. I'm still a bit confused about what the idling logic actually does. Is it some sort of additional plugging where we wait for more I/O to accumulate? > - That might have prompted us to introduce the rq_noidle() to make sure > we don't idle in WRITE_SYNC path but direct IO path was avoided to make > sure good throughput is maintained. But this left one question open > and that is it good to disable idling on all WRITE_SYNC path in kernel. I still fail to see why we should make any difference in the I/O scheduler for O_DIRECT vs O_SYNC/fsync workloads. In both cases the caller blocks waiting for the I/O completion. > - Slowly cfq code emerged and as it stands today, to me rq_noidle() is > practically of not much use. For sync-idle tree (where idling is > enabled), we are ignoring the rq_noidle() and always arming the timer. > For sync-noidle, we choose not to idle based on if there was some other > thread who did even a single IO with rq_noidle=0. > > I think in practice, there is on thread of other which is doing some > read or write with rq_noidle=0 and if that's the case, we will end up > idling on sync-noidle tree also and rq_noidle() practically does > not take effect. > > So if rq_noidle() was introduced to solve the issue of not idling on > fsync() path (as jbd thread will send more data now), then probably slice > yielding patch of jeff might come handy here and and we can get rid of > rq_noidle() logic. This is just a guess work and I might be completely > wrong here... Getting rid of the noidle logic and more bio flag that us filesystem developers have real trouble understanding would be a good thing. After that we're down to three bio modifiers for filesystem use, of which at least two are very easy to grasp: - REQ_SYNC - treat a request as synchronous, implicitly enabled for reads anyway - REQ_UNPLUG - explicitly unplug the queue after I/O submission and - REQ_META - which we're currenly trying to define in detail REQ_NOIDLE currenly really is a lot of deep magic. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html