Re: [PATCH v3 00/12] fuse: support large folios

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 5:24 PM Jingbo Xu <jefflexu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>
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> On 1/23/25 7:23 AM, Joanne Koong wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 2:23 PM Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> This patchset adds support for folios larger than one page size in FUSE.
> >>
> >> This patchset is rebased on top of the (unmerged) patchset that removes temp
> >> folios in writeback [1]. This patchset was tested by running it through fstests
> >> on passthrough_hp.
> >>
> >> Please note that writes are still effectively one page size. Larger writes can
> >> be enabled by setting the order on the fgp flag passed in to __filemap_get_folio()
> >> but benchmarks show this significantly degrades performance. More investigation
> >> needs to be done into this. As such, buffered writes will be optimized in a
> >> future patchset.
> >>
> >> Benchmarks show roughly a ~45% improvement in read throughput.
> >>
> >> Benchmark setup:
> >>
> >> -- Set up server --
> >>  ./libfuse/build/example/passthrough_hp --bypass-rw=1 ~/libfuse
> >> ~/mounts/fuse/ --nopassthrough
> >> (using libfuse patched with https://github.com/libfuse/libfuse/pull/807)
> >>
> >> -- Run fio --
> >>  fio --name=read --ioengine=sync --rw=read --bs=1M --size=1G
> >> --numjobs=2 --ramp_time=30 --group_reporting=1
> >> --directory=mounts/fuse/
> >>
> >> Machine 1:
> >>     No large folios:     ~4400 MiB/s
> >>     Large folios:        ~7100 MiB/s
> >>
> >> Machine 2:
> >>     No large folios:     ~3700 MiB/s
> >>     Large folios:        ~6400 MiB/s
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20241122232359.429647-1-joannelkoong@xxxxxxxxx/
> >>
> >
> > A couple of updates on this:
> > * I'm going to remove the writeback patch (patch 11/12) in this series
> > and resubmit, and leave large folios writeback to be done as a
> > separate future patchset. Getting writeback to work with large folios
> > has a dependency on [1], which unfortunately does not look like it'll
> > be resolved anytime soon. If we cannot remove tmp pages, then we'll
> > likely need to use a different data structure than the rb tree to
> > account for large folios w/ tmp pages. I believe we can still enable
> > large folios overall even without large folios writeback, as even with
> > the inode->i_mapping set to a large folio order range, writeback will
> > still only operate on 4k folios until fgf_set_order() is explicitly
> > set in fuse_write_begin() for the __filemap_get_folio() call.
> >
> > * There's a discussion here [2] about perf degradation for writeback
> > writes on large folios due to writeback throttling when balancing
> > dirty pages. This is due to fuse enabling bdi strictlimit. More
> > experimentation will be needed to figure out what a good folio order
> > is, and whether it's possible to do something like remove the
> > strictlimit for privileged servers.
>
> FYI the sysadmin can already disable strictlimit for FUSE through
> /sys/class/bdi/<bdi>/strict_limit knob[*].
>
> [*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221119005215.3052436-1-shr@xxxxxxxxxxxx/

Oh cool, thanks for pointing this out! AFAICT, this means the sysadmin
would have to do this individually for every fuse server that gets
run. I wonder if we should do something like a) have fuse only enforce
the strictlimit for unprivileged servers or b) add a fuse sysctl that
sysadmins can set more easily for removing strictlimit for any server
that gets run instead of having to do it individually

Thanks,
Joanne

>
> --
> Thanks,
> Jingbo





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