On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 05:01:58 +0900, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > >> Last time I looked the regular binfmt_elf works just fine > >> without an mmu. I looked again and at a quick skim the > >> regular elf loader still looks like it will work without > >> an MMU. > > > > I'm wondering how you looked at it and how you see that it works > > without MMU. > > I got as far as seeing that vm_mmap should work. As all of the > bits for mmap to work, are present in both mmu and nommu. hmm, at least MAP_FIXED doesn't work in current mm/nommu.c. # also documented at Documentation/admin-guide/mm/nommu-mmap.rst. > > I also wish to use the regular binfmt_elf, but it doesn't allow me to > > compile with !CONFIG_MMU right now. > > Then I may simply be confused. Where does the compile fail? > Is it somewhere in Kconfig? > > I could be completely confused. It has happened before. If I applied to below in addition to my whole patchset, diff --git a/fs/Kconfig.binfmt b/fs/Kconfig.binfmt index 419ba0282806..b34d0578a22f 100644 --- a/fs/Kconfig.binfmt +++ b/fs/Kconfig.binfmt @@ -4,7 +4,6 @@ menu "Executable file formats" config BINFMT_ELF bool "Kernel support for ELF binaries" - depends on MMU select ELFCORE default y help @@ -58,7 +57,7 @@ config ARCH_USE_GNU_PROPERTY config BINFMT_ELF_FDPIC bool "Kernel support for FDPIC ELF binaries" default y if !BINFMT_ELF - depends on ARM || ((M68K || RISCV || SUPERH || UML || XTENSA) && !MMU) + depends on ARM || ((M68K || RISCV || SUPERH || XTENSA) && !MMU) select ELFCORE help ELF FDPIC binaries are based on ELF, but allow the individual load this is the output from `make ARCH=um`. GEN Makefile CALL ../scripts/checksyscalls.sh CC fs/binfmt_elf.o In file included from ./arch/x86/include/generated/asm/rwonce.h:1, from ../include/linux/compiler.h:317, from ../include/linux/build_bug.h:5, from ../include/linux/container_of.h:5, from ../include/linux/list.h:5, from ../include/linux/module.h:12, from ../fs/binfmt_elf.c:13: ../fs/binfmt_elf.c: In function ʽload_elf_binaryʼ: ../include/asm-generic/rwonce.h:44:71: error: lvalue required as unary ʽ&ʼ operand 44 | #define __READ_ONCE(x) (*(const volatile __unqual_scalar_typeof(x) *)&(x)) | ^ ../include/asm-generic/rwonce.h:50:9: note: in expansion of macro ʽ__READ_ONCEʼ 50 | __READ_ONCE(x); \ | ^~~~~~~~~~~ ../fs/binfmt_elf.c:1006:49: note: in expansion of macro ʽREAD_ONCEʼ 1006 | const int snapshot_randomize_va_space = READ_ONCE(randomize_va_space); | I avoided this issue (with nasty MAP_FIXED workaround) but there seems to be still a lot of things that I need to fix to work with nommu. > I just react a little strongly to the assertion that elf_fdpic is > the only path when I don't see why that should be. > > Especially for an architecture like user-mode-linux where I would expect > it to run the existing binaries for a port. I understand your concern, and will try to work on improving this situation a bit. Another naive question: are there any past attempts to do the similar thing (binfmt_elf without MMU) ? -- Hajime