On Wed, Oct 02, 2024 at 03:45:08PM GMT, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, at 14:23, Christian Brauner wrote: > > > and then copy the stuff via copy_struct_from_user() or copy back out to > > user via other means. > > > > This way you can safely extend ioctl()s in a backward and forward > > compatible manner and if we can enforce this for new drivers then I > > think that's what we should do. > > I don't see much value in building generic code for ioctl around > this specific variant of extensibility. Extending ioctl commands > by having a larger structure that results in a new cmd code > constant is fine, but there is little difference between doing > this with the same or a different 'nr' value. Most drivers just > always use a new nr here, and I see no reason to discourage that. > > There is actually a small risk in your example where it can > break if you have the same size between native and compat > variants of the same command, like > > struct old { > long a; > }; > > struct new { > long a; > int b; > }; > > Here, the 64-bit 'old' has the same size as the 32-bit 'new', > so if we try to handle them in a shared native/compat ioctl > function, this needs an extra in_conmpat_syscall() check that > adds complexity and is easy to forget. This presupposes that we will have Rust drivers - not C drivers - that define structs like it's 1990. You yourself and me included try to enforce that structs are correctly aligned and padded. So I see this as a non-argument. We wouldn't let this slide in new system calls so I don't see why we would in new ioctls.