On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 at 14:47, NeilBrown <neilb@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > I can definitely get behind the idea has having a few more helpers and > using them more widely. But unless we get rid of wake_up_bit(), people > will still use and some will use it wrongly. I do not believe this is a valid argument. "We have interfaces that somebody can use wrongly" is a fact of life, not an argument. The whole "wake_up_bit()" is a very special thing, and dammit, if people don't know the rules, then they shouldn't be using it. Anybody using that interface *ALREADY* has to have some model of atomicity for the actual bit they are changing. And yes, they can get that wrong too. The only way to actually make it a simple interface is to do the bit operation and the wakeup together. Which is why I think that interfaces like clear_bit_and_wake() or set_bit_and_wake() are fine, because at that point you actually have a valid rule for the whole operation. But wake_up_bit() on its own ALREADY depends on the user doing the right thing for the bit itself. Putting a memory barrier in it will only *HIDE* incompetence, it won't be fixing it. So no. Don't add interfaces that hide the problem. Linus