On Thu, 2024-08-08 at 12:36 +0200, Christian Brauner wrote: > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 10:36:58AM GMT, Jeff Layton wrote: > > On Wed, 2024-08-07 at 16:26 +0200, Christian Brauner wrote: > > > > +static struct dentry *lookup_fast_for_open(struct nameidata *nd, int open_flag) > > > > +{ > > > > + struct dentry *dentry; > > > > + > > > > + if (open_flag & O_CREAT) { > > > > + /* Don't bother on an O_EXCL create */ > > > > + if (open_flag & O_EXCL) > > > > + return NULL; > > > > + > > > > + /* > > > > + * FIXME: If auditing is enabled, then we'll have to unlazy to > > > > + * use the dentry. For now, don't do this, since it shifts > > > > + * contention from parent's i_rwsem to its d_lockref spinlock. > > > > + * Reconsider this once dentry refcounting handles heavy > > > > + * contention better. > > > > + */ > > > > + if ((nd->flags & LOOKUP_RCU) && !audit_dummy_context()) > > > > + return NULL; > > > > > > Hm, the audit_inode() on the parent is done independent of whether the > > > file was actually created or not. But the audit_inode() on the file > > > itself is only done when it was actually created. Imho, there's no need > > > to do audit_inode() on the parent when we immediately find that file > > > already existed. If we accept that then this makes the change a lot > > > simpler. > > > > > > The inconsistency would partially remain though. When the file doesn't > > > exist audit_inode() on the parent is called but by the time we've > > > grabbed the inode lock someone else might already have created the file > > > and then again we wouldn't audit_inode() on the file but we would have > > > on the parent. > > > > > > I think that's fine. But if that's bothersome the more aggressive thing > > > to do would be to pull that audit_inode() on the parent further down > > > after we created the file. Imho, that should be fine?... > > > > > > See https://gitlab.com/brauner/linux/-/commits/vfs.misc.jeff/?ref_type=heads > > > for a completely untested draft of what I mean. > > > > Yeah, that's a lot simpler. That said, my experience when I've worked > > with audit in the past is that people who are using it are _very_ > > sensitive to changes of when records get emitted or not. I don't like > > this, because I think the rules here are ad-hoc and somewhat arbitrary, > > but keeping everything working exactly the same has been my MO whenever > > I have to work in there. > > > > If a certain access pattern suddenly generates a different set of > > records (or some are missing, as would be in this case), we might get > > bug reports about this. I'm ok with simplifying this code in the way > > you suggest, but we may want to do it in a patch on top of mine, to > > make it simple to revert later if that becomes necessary. > > Fwiw, even with the rearranged checks in v3 of the patch audit records > will be dropped because we may find a positive dentry but the path may > have trailing slashes. At that point we just return without audit > whereas before we always would've done that audit. > I don't think so. v3 has it drop out of rcuwalk and do the audit_inode call in the case of trailing slashes. I took great pains here to ensure that if we emitted a record before that we still do it after. Do let me know if I missed a case though. > Honestly, we should move that audit event as right now it's just really > weird and see if that works. Otherwise the change is somewhat horrible > complicating the already convoluted logic even more. > > So I'm appending the patches that I have on top of your patch in > vfs.misc. Can you (other as well ofc) take a look and tell me whether > that's not breaking anything completely other than later audit events? That all looks fine to me. I'm not a heavy user of audit, but the change you've made seems sane to me. Hopefully no one will notice. I'll plan to do some testing with it later today. Thanks! -- Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx>