On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 3:02 AM Mickaël Salaün <mic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > These new SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK, SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT, and > their *_LOCKED counterparts are designed to be set by processes setting > up an execution environment, such as a user session, a container, or a > security sandbox. Like seccomp filters or Landlock domains, the > securebits are inherited across proceses. > > When SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK is set, programs interpreting code should > check executable resources with execveat(2) + AT_CHECK (see previous > patch). > > When SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT is set, a process should only allow > execution of approved resources, if any (see SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK). I read this twice, slept on it, read them again, and I *still* can't understand it. See below... > The only restriction enforced by the kernel is the right to ptrace > another process. Processes are denied to ptrace less restricted ones, > unless the tracer has CAP_SYS_PTRACE. This is mainly a safeguard to > avoid trivial privilege escalations e.g., by a debugging process being > abused with a confused deputy attack. What's the actual issue? And why can't I, as root, do, in a carefully checked, CHECK'd and RESTRICT'd environment, # gdb -p <pid>? Adding weird restrictions to ptrace can substantially *weaken* security because it forces people to do utterly daft things to work around the restrictions. ... > +/* > + * When SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK is set, a process should check all executable > + * files with execveat(2) + AT_CHECK. However, such check should only be > + * performed if all to-be-executed code only comes from regular files. For > + * instance, if a script interpreter is called with both a script snipped as s/snipped/snippet/ > + * argument and a regular file, the interpreter should not check any file. > + * Doing otherwise would mislead the kernel to think that only the script file > + * is being executed, which could for instance lead to unexpected permission > + * change and break current use cases. This is IMO not nearly clear enough to result in multiple user implementations and a kernel implementation and multiple LSM implementations and LSM policy authors actually agreeing as to what this means. I also think it's wrong to give user code instructions about what kernel checks it should do. Have the user code call the kernel and have the kernel implement the policy. > +/* > + * When SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT is set, a process should only allow > + * execution of approved files, if any (see SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK). For > + * instance, script interpreters called with a script snippet as argument > + * should always deny such execution if SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT is set. > + * However, if a script interpreter is called with both > + * SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_CHECK and SECBIT_SHOULD_EXEC_RESTRICT, they should > + * interpret the provided script files if no unchecked code is also provided > + * (e.g. directly as argument). I think you're trying to say that this is like (the inverse of) Content-Security-Policy: unsafe-inline. In other words, you're saying that, if RESTRICT is set, then programs should not execute code-like text that didn't come from a file. Is that right? I feel like it would be worth looking at the state of the art of Content-Security-Policy and all the lessons people have learned from it. Whatever the result is should be at least as comprehensible and at least as carefully engineered as Content-Security-Policy. --Andy