AKA - integer identifiers considered harmful Any time you've got a namespace that's just integers, if you ever end up needing to subdivide it you're going to have a bad time. This comes up all over the place - for another example, consider ioctl numbering, where keeping them organized and collision free is a major headache. For UIDs, we need to be able to subdivide the UID namespace for e.g. containers and mounting filesystems as an unprivileged user - but since we just have an integer identifier, this requires complicated remapping and updating and maintaining a global table. Subdividing a UID to create new permissions domains should be a cheap, easy operation, and it's not. The solution (originally from plan9, of course) is - UIDs shouldn't be numbers, they should be strings; and additionally, the strings should be paths. Then, if 'alice' is a user, 'alice.foo' and 'alice.bar' would be subusers, created by alice without any privileged operations or mucking with outside system state, and 'alice' would be superuser w.r.t. 'alice.foo' and 'alice.bar'. What's this get us? Much better, easier to use sandboxing - and maybe we can kill off a _whole_ lot of other stuff, too. Apparmour and selinux are fundamentally just about sandboxing programs so they can't own everything owned by the user they're run by. But if we have an easy way to say "exec this program as a subuser of the current user..." Then we can control what that program can access with just our existing UNIX permission and acls. This would be a pretty radical change, and there's a number of things to explore - lots of brainstorming to do. - How can we do this without breaking absolutely everything? Obviously, any syscalls that communicate in terms of UIDs and GIDs are a problem; can we come up with a compat layer so that most stuff more or less still works? - How can we do this a way that's the most orthogonal, that gets us the most bang for our buck? How can we kill off as much security model stupidity as possible? How can we make sandboxing _dead easy_ for new applications? Cheers, Kent