On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 14:51, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I was working on getting rid of ei->dentry, but then I hit: > > void eventfs_remove_dir(struct eventfs_inode *ei) > { [..] > > Where it deletes the all the existing dentries in a tree. Is this a > valid place to keep ei->dentry? No, when you remove the directory, just leave the child dentries alone. Remember: they are purely caches, and you either have - somebody is still using it (you can 'rmdir()' a directory that some other process has as its cwd, for example), which keeps it alive and active anyway - when the last user is done, the dcache code will just free the dentries anyway so there's no reason to remove any of the dentries by hand - and in fact simple_recursive_removal() never did that anyway for anything that was still busy. For a pure cached set of dentries (that have no users), doing the last "dput()" on a directory will free that directory dentry, but it will also automatically free all the unreachable children recursively. Sure, simple_recursive_removal() does other things (sets inode flags to S_DEAD, does fsnotify etc), but none of those should actually matter. I think that whole logic is simply left-over from when the dentries weren't a filesystem cache, but were the *actual* filesystem. So it actually became actively wrong when you started doing your own backing store, but it just didn't hurt (except for code legibility). Of course, eventfs is slightly odd and special in that this isn't a normal "rmdir()", so it can happen with files still populated. And those children will stick around and be useless baggage until they are shrunk under memory pressure. But I don't think it should *semantically* matter, exactly because they always could stay around anyway due to having users. There are some cacheability knobs like .d_delete = always_delete_dentry, which probably makes sense for any virtual filesystem (it limits caching of dentries with no more users - normally the dcache will happily keep caching dentries for the *next* user, but that may or may not make sense for virtual filesystems) So there is tuning that can be done, but in general, I think you should actively think of the dcache as just "it's just a cache, leave stale stuff alone" Linus