Re: [fuse-devel] FICLONE / FICLONERANGE support

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On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 2:31 AM Antonio SJ Musumeci <trapexit@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Has anyone investigated adding support for FICLONE and FICLONERANGE? I'm
> not seeing any references to either on the mailinglist. I've got a
> passthrough filesystem and with more users taking advantage of btrfs and
> xfs w/ reflinks there has been some demand for the ability to support it.
>

[CC fsdevel because my answer's scope is wider than just FUSE]

FWIW, the kernel implementation of copy_file_range() calls remap_file_range()
(a.k.a. clone_file_range()) for both xfs and btrfs, so if your users control the
application they are using, calling copy_file_range() will propagate via your
fuse filesystem correctly to underlying xfs/btrfs and will effectively result in
clone_file_range().

Thus using tools like cp --reflink, on your passthrough filesystem should yield
the expected result.

For a more practical example see:
https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12033
Since Samba 4.1, server-side-copy is implemented as copy_file_range()

API-wise, there are two main differences between copy_file_range() and
FICLONERANGE:
1. copy_file_range() can result in partial copy
2. copy_file_range() can results in more used disk space

Other API differences are minor, but the fact that copy_file_range()
is a syscall with a @flags argument makes it a candidate for being
a super-set of both functionalities.

The question is, for your users, are you actually looking for
clone_file_range() support? or is best-effort copy_file_range() with
clone_file_range() fallback enough?

If your users are looking for the atomic clone_file_range() behavior,
then a single flag in fuse_copy_file_range_in::flags is enough to
indicate to the server that the "atomic clone" behavior is wanted.

Note that the @flags argument to copy_file_range() syscall does not
support any flags at all at the moment.

The only flag defined in the kernel COPY_FILE_SPLICE is for
internal use only.

We can define a flag COPY_FILE_CLONE to use either only
internally in kernel and in FUSE protocol or even also in
copy_file_range() syscall.

Sure, we can also add a new FUSE protocol command for
FUSE_CLONE_FILE_RANGE, but I don't think that is
necessary.
It is certainly not necessary if there is agreement to extend the
copy_file_range() syscall to support COPY_FILE_CLONE flag.

What do folks think about this possible API extension?

Thanks,
Amir.





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