On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 06:33:59AM -0800, Vinicius Costa Gomes wrote: > Amir Goldstein <amir73il@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 11:57 PM Vinicius Costa Gomes > > <vinicius.gomes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> Christian Brauner <brauner@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> > >> >> > Yes, the important thing is that an object cannot change > >> >> > its non_refcount property during its lifetime - > >> >> > >> >> ... which means that put_creds_ref() should assert that > >> >> there is only a single refcount - the one handed out by > >> >> prepare_creds_ref() before removing non_refcount or > >> >> directly freeing the cred object. > >> >> > >> >> I must say that the semantics of making a non-refcounted copy > >> >> to an object whose lifetime is managed by the caller sounds a lot > >> >> less confusing to me. > >> > > >> > So can't we do an override_creds() variant that is effectively just: > > > > Yes, I think that we can.... > > > >> > > >> > /* caller guarantees lifetime of @new */ > >> > const struct cred *foo_override_cred(const struct cred *new) > >> > { > >> > const struct cred *old = current->cred; > >> > rcu_assign_pointer(current->cred, new); > >> > return old; > >> > } > >> > > >> > /* caller guarantees lifetime of @old */ > >> > void foo_revert_creds(const struct cred *old) > >> > { > >> > const struct cred *override = current->cred; > >> > rcu_assign_pointer(current->cred, old); > >> > } > >> > > > > > Even better(?), we can do this in the actual guard helpers to > > discourage use without a guard: > > > > struct override_cred { > > struct cred *cred; > > }; > > > > DEFINE_GUARD(override_cred, struct override_cred *, > > override_cred_save(_T), > > override_cred_restore(_T)); > > > > ... > > > > void override_cred_save(struct override_cred *new) > > { > > new->cred = rcu_replace_pointer(current->cred, new->cred, true); > > } > > > > void override_cred_restore(struct override_cred *old) > > { > > rcu_assign_pointer(current->cred, old->cred); > > } > > > >> > Maybe I really fail to understand this problem or the proposed solution: > >> > the single reference that overlayfs keeps in ovl->creator_cred is tied > >> > to the lifetime of the overlayfs superblock, no? And anyone who needs a > >> > long term cred reference e.g, file->f_cred will take it's own reference > >> > anyway. So it should be safe to just keep that reference alive until > >> > overlayfs is unmounted, no? I'm sure it's something quite obvious why > >> > that doesn't work but I'm just not seeing it currently. > >> > >> My read of the code says that what you are proposing should work. (what > >> I am seeing is that in the "optimized" cases, the only practical effect > >> of override/revert is the rcu_assign_pointer() dance) > >> > >> I guess that the question becomes: Do we want this property (that the > >> 'cred' associated with a subperblock/similar is long lived and the > >> "inner" refcount can be omitted) to be encoded in the constructor? Or do > >> we want it to be "encoded" in a call by call basis? > >> > > > > Neither. > > > > Christian's proposal does not involve marking the cred object as > > long lived, which looks a much better idea to me. > > > > In my mind, I am reading his suggestion as the flag "long lived > cred/lives long enough" is "in our brains" vs. what I proposed that the > flag was "in the object". The effect of the "flag" is the same: when to > use a lighter version (no refcount) of override/revert. > > What I was thinking was more more under the covers, implicit. And I can > see the advantages of having them more explicit. > > > The performance issues you observed are (probably) due to get/put > > of cred refcount in the helpers {override,revert}_creds(). > > > > Yes, they are. Sorry that it was lost in the context. The original > report is here: > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231018074553.41333-1-hu1.chen@xxxxxxxxx/ > > > Christian suggested lightweight variants of {override,revert}_creds() > > that do not change refcount. Combining those with a guard and > > I don't see what can go wrong (TM). > > > > If you try this out and post a patch, please be sure to include the > > motivation for the patch along with performance numbers in the > > commit message, even if only posting an RFC patch. > > > > Of course. > > And to be sure, I will go with Christian's suggestion, it looks neat, > and having a lighter version of references is a more common idiom. Did this ever go anywhere?