Hi, On Thu 27-08-09 03:16:24, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > There are two related issues when dealing with volatile write caches, > the popular and beaten to death one are write barriers to guarantee > write ordering and stable storage for log writes. For this post > I assume naively this works perfectly for all filesystems supporting it. > > The second issue are plain cache flush. Yes, they happen to be the > base for the barrier implementation on all common disks in Linux, but > there are cases where we need to issue them even without a log barrier. > > Think about a plain write into a file that is already fully allocated. > Or the O_DIRECT version of them same. If we do an fdatasync after these > we really do expect the write to really be on disk, not just in the disk > cache, right? The same is true for O_SYNC, but I ignore it for this > write out as with Jan's patch series O_SYNC writes will be implemented > by a range-fdatasync after the actual write, so after that this sync > section covers it, too. I've noticed this as well when we were tracking some problems Pavel Machek found with his USB stick. I even wrote a patch at the time http://osdir.com/ml/linux-ext4/2009-01/msg00015.html but it somehow died out. Now, the situation should be simpler with fsync paths cleaned up... BTW: People wanted this to be configurable per block device which probably makes sence... Honza -- Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx> SUSE Labs, CR -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html