On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 6:21 PM Casey Schaufler <casey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 12/8/2023 2:43 PM, Paul Moore wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 9:14 PM Munehisa Kamata <kamatam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Tue, 2023-12-05 14:21:51 -0800, Paul Moore wrote: > > .. > > > >>> I think my thoughts are neatly summarized by Andrew's "yuk!" comment > >>> at the top. However, before we go too much further on this, can we > >>> get clarification that Casey was able to reproduce this on a stock > >>> upstream kernel? Last I read in the other thread Casey wasn't seeing > >>> this problem on Linux v6.5. > >>> > >>> However, for the moment I'm going to assume this is a real problem, is > >>> there some reason why the existing pid_revalidate() code is not being > >>> called in the bind mount case? From what I can see in the original > >>> problem report, the path walk seems to work okay when the file is > >>> accessed directly from /proc, but fails when done on the bind mount. > >>> Is there some problem with revalidating dentrys on bind mounts? > >> Hi Paul, > >> > >> https://lkml.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20090608201745.GO8633@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ > >> > >> After reading this thread, I have doubt about solving this in VFS. > >> Honestly, however, I'm not sure if it's entirely relevant today. > > Have you tried simply mounting proc a second time instead of using a bind mount? > > > > % mount -t proc non /new/location/for/proc > > > > I ask because from your description it appears that proc does the > > right thing with respect to revalidation, it only becomes an issue > > when accessing proc through a bind mount. Or did I misunderstand the > > problem? > > It's not hard to make the problem go away by performing some simple > action. I was unable to reproduce the problem initially because I > checked the Smack label on the bind mounted proc entry before doing > the cat of it. The problem shows up if nothing happens to update the > inode. A good point. I'm kinda thinking we just leave things as-is, especially since the proposed fix isn't something anyone is really excited about. -- paul-moore.com