Christian Brauner <brauner@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> This is the backdoor. You use it when *you* know that the file is okay > > And a huge one. > >> to access, but Rust doesn't. It's unsafe because it's not checked by >> Rust. >> >> For example you could do this: >> >> let ptr = unsafe { bindings::fdget(fd) }; >> >> // SAFETY: We just called `fdget`. >> let file = unsafe { File::from_ptr(ptr) }; >> use_file(file); >> >> // SAFETY: We're not using `file` after this call. >> unsafe { bindings::fdput(ptr) }; >> >> It's used in Binder here: >> https://github.com/Darksonn/linux/blob/dca45e6c7848e024709b165a306cdbe88e5b086a/drivers/android/rust_binder.rs#L331-L332 >> >> Basically, I use it to say "C code has called fdget for us so it's okay >> to access the file", whenever userspace uses a syscall to call into the >> driver. > > Yeah, ok, because the fd you're operating on may be coming from fdget(). Iirc, > binder is almost by default used multi-threaded with a shared file descriptor > table? But while that means fdget() will usually bump the reference count you > can't be sure. Hmkay. Even if the syscall used `fget` instead of `fdget`, I would still be using `from_ptr` here. The `ARef` type only really makes sense when *we* have ownership of the ref-count, but in this case we don't own it. We're just given a promise that the caller is keeping it alive for us using some mechanism or another. >>>> +// SAFETY: It's OK to access `File` through shared references from other threads because we're >>>> +// either accessing properties that don't change or that are properly synchronised by C code. >>> >>> Uhm, what guarantees are you talking about specifically, please? >>> Examples would help. >>> >>>> +unsafe impl Sync for File {} >> >> The Sync trait defines whether a value may be accessed from several >> threads in parallel (using shared/immutable references). In our case, > > So let me put this into my own words and you correct me, please: > > So, this really just means that if I have two processes both with their own > fdtable and they happen to hold fds that refer to the same @file: > > P1 P2 > struct fd fd1 = fdget(1234); > struct fd fd2 = fdget(5678); > if (!fd1.file) if (!fd2.file) > return -EBADF; return -EBADF; > > // fd1.file == fd2.file > > the only if the Sync trait is implemented both P1 and P2 can in parallel call > file->f_op->poll(@file)? > > So if the Sync trait isn't implemented then the compiler will prohibit that P1 > and P2 at the same time call file->f_op->poll(@file)? And that's all that's > meant by a shared reference? It's really about sharing the pointer. Yeah, what you're saying sounds correct. For a type that is not Sync, you would need a lock around the call to `poll` before the compiler would accept the call. (Or some other mechanism to convince the compiler that no other thread is looking at the file at the same time. Of course, a lock is just one way to do that.) > The thing is that "shared reference" gets a bit in our way here: > > (1) If you have SCM_RIGHTs in the mix then P1 can open fd1 to @file and then > send that @file to P2 which now has fd2 refering to @file as well. The > @file->f_count is bumped in that process. So @file->f_count is now 2. > > Now both P1 and P2 call fdget(). Since they don't have a shared fdtable > none of them take an additional reference to @file. IOW, @file->f_count > may remain 2 all throughout the @file->f_op->*() operation. > > So they share a reference to that file and elide both the > atomic_inc_not_zero() and the atomic_dec_not_zero(). > > (2) io_uring has fixed files whose reference count always stays at 1. > So all io_uring operations on such fixed files share a single reference. > > So that's why this is a bit confusing at first to read "shared reference". > > Please add a comment on top of unsafe impl Sync for File {} > explaining/clarifying this a little that it's about calling methods on the same > file. Yeah, I agree, the terminology gets a bit mixed up here because we both use the word "reference" for different things. How about this comment? /// All methods defined on `File` that take `&self` are safe to call even if /// other threads are concurrently accessing the same `struct file`, because /// those methods either access immutable properties or have proper /// synchronization to ensure that such accesses are safe. Note: Here, I say "take &self" to refer to methods with &self in the signature. This signature means that you pass a &File to the method when you call it. Alice