On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 06:38:43AM +0000, Al Viro wrote: > > FWIW, I suspect that the right answer would be along the lines of > > * if d_splice_alias() does move an exsiting (attached) alias in > > place, it ought to dissolve all mountpoints in subtree being moved. > > There might be subtleties, Are there ever... Starting with the "our test for loop creation (alias is a direct ancestor, need to fail with -ELOOP) is dependent upon rename_lock being held all along". Folks, what semantics do we want for dissolving mounts on splice? The situation when it happens is when we have a subtree on e.g. NFS and have some mounts (on client) inside that. Then somebody on server moves the root of that subtree somewhere else and we try to do a lookup in new place. Options: 1) our dentry for directory that got moved on server is moved into new place, along with the entire subtree *and* everything mounted on it. Very dubious semantics, especially since if we look the old location up before looking for new one, the mounts will be dissolved; no way around that. 2) lookup fails. It's already possible; e.g. if server has /srv/nfs/1/2/3 moved to /srv/nfs/x, then /srv/nfs/1/2 moved to /srv/nfs/x/y and client has a process with cwd in /mnt/nfs/1/2/3 doing a lookup for "y", there's no way in hell to handle that - the lookup will return the fhandle of /srv/nfs/x, which is the same thing the client has for /mnt/nfs/1/2; we *can't* move that dentry to /mnt/nfs/1/2/3/y - not without creating a detached loop. We can also run into -ESTALE if one of the trylocks in __d_unalias() fails. Having the same happen if there are mounts in the subtree we are trying to splice would be unpleasant, but not fatal. The trouble is, that won't be a transient failure - not until somebody tries to look the old location up. 3) dissolve the mounts. Doable, but it's not easy; especially since we end up having to redo the loop-prevention check after the mounts had been dissolved. And that check may be failing by that time, with no way to undo that dissolving...