Re: [PATCH 1/6] block: Add config option to not allow writing to mounted devices

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Hi Jan,

Thank you for the series!

Have you already had a chance to push an updated version of it?
I tried to search LKML, but didn't find anything.

Or did you decide to put it off until later?

-- 
Aleksandr

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 12:12 PM Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Eric!
>
> On Mon 21-08-23 22:35:23, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 02:56:49PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > Writing to mounted devices is dangerous and can lead to filesystem
> > > corruption as well as crashes. Furthermore syzbot comes with more and
> > > more involved examples how to corrupt block device under a mounted
> > > filesystem leading to kernel crashes and reports we can do nothing
> > > about. Add tracking of writers to each block device and a kernel cmdline
> > > argument which controls whether writes to block devices open with
> > > BLK_OPEN_BLOCK_WRITES flag are allowed. We will make filesystems use
> > > this flag for used devices.
> > >
> > > Syzbot can use this cmdline argument option to avoid uninteresting
> > > crashes. Also users whose userspace setup does not need writing to
> > > mounted block devices can set this option for hardening.
> > >
> > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/60788e5d-5c7c-1142-e554-c21d709acfd9@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx>
> >
> > Can you make it clear that the important thing this patch prevents is
> > writes to the block device's buffer cache, not writes to the underlying
> > storage?  It's super important not to confuse the two cases.
>
> Right, I've already updated the description of the help text in the kconfig
> to explicitely explain that this does not prevent underlying device content
> from being modified, it just prevents writes the the block device itself.
> But I guess I can also explain this (with a bit more technical details) in
> the changelog. Good idea.
>
> > Related to this topic, I wonder if there is any value in providing an option
> > that would allow O_DIRECT writes but forbid buffered writes?  Would that be
> > useful for any of the known use cases for writing to mounted block devices?
>
> I'm not sure how useful that would be but it would be certainly rather
> difficult to implement. The problem is we can currently fallback from
> direct to buffered IO as we see fit, also we need to invalidate page cache
> while doing direct IO which can fail etc. So it will be a rather nasty can
> of worms to open...
>
>                                                                 Honza
> --
> Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxxx>
> SUSE Labs, CR
>





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