Restore LKML
On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 02:21:10PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 11-10-23 11:26:29, Yury Norov wrote:
> > Long story short: KCSAN found some potential issues related to how
> > people use bitmap API. And instead of working through that issues,
> > the following code shuts down KCSAN by applying READ_ONCE() here
> > and there.
>
> I'm sorry but this is not what the patch does. I'm not sure how to get the
> message across so maybe let me start from a different angle:
>
> Bitmaps are perfectly fine to be used without any external locking if
> only atomic bit ops (set_bit, clear_bit, test_and_{set/clear}_bit) are
> used. This is a significant performance gain compared to using a spinlock
> or other locking and people do this for a long time. I hope we agree on
> that.
>
> Now it is also common that you need to find a set / clear bit in a bitmap.
> To maintain lockless protocol and deal with races people employ schemes
> like (the dumbest form):
>
> do {
> bit = find_first_bit(bitmap, n);
> if (bit >= n)
> abort...
> } while (!test_and_clear_bit(bit, bitmap));
>
> So the code loops until it finds a set bit that is successfully cleared by
> it. This is perfectly fine and safe lockless code and such use should be
> supported. Agreed?
Great example. When you're running non-atomic functions concurrently,
the result may easily become incorrect, and this is what you're
demonstrating here.
Regarding find_first_bit() it means that:
- it may erroneously return unset bit;
- it may erroneously return non-first set bit;
- it may erroneously return no bits for non-empty bitmap.
Effectively it means that find_first bit may just return a random number.
Let's take another example:
do {
bit = get_random_number();
if (bit >= n)
abort...
} while (!test_and_clear_bit(bit, bitmap));
When running concurrently, the difference between this and your code
is only in probability of getting set bit somewhere from around the
beginning of bitmap.
The key point is that find_bit() may return undef even if READ_ONCE() is
used. If bitmap gets changed anytime in the process, the result becomes
invalid. It may happen even after returning from find_first_bit().
And if my understanding correct, your code is designed in the
assumption that find_first_bit() may return garbage, so handles it
correctly.
> *Except* that the above actually is not safe due to find_first_bit()
> implementation and KCSAN warns about that. The problem is that:
>
> Assume *addr == 1
> CPU1 CPU2
> find_first_bit(addr, 64)
> val = *addr;
> if (val) -> true
> clear_bit(0, addr)
> val = *addr -> compiler decided to refetch addr contents for whatever
> reason in the generated assembly
> __ffs(val) -> now executed for value 0 which has undefined results.
Yes, __ffs(0) is undef. But the whole function is undef when accessing
bitmap concurrently.
> And the READ_ONCE() this patch adds prevents the compiler from adding the
> refetching of addr into the assembly.
That's true. But it doesn't improve on the situation. It was an undef
before, and it's undef after, but a 2% slower undef.
Now on that KCSAN warning. If I understand things correctly, for the
example above, KCSAN warning is false-positive, because you're
intentionally running lockless.
But for some other people it may be a true error, and now they'll have
no chance to catch it if KCSAN is forced to ignore find_bit() entirely.
We've got the whole class of lockless algorithms that allow safe concurrent
access to the memory. And now that there's a tool that searches for them
(concurrent accesses), we need to have an option to somehow teach it
to suppress irrelevant warnings. Maybe something like this?
lockless_algorithm_begin(bitmap, bitmap_size(nbits));
do {
bit = find_first_bit(bitmap, nbits);
if (bit >= nbits)
break;
} while (!test_and_clear_bit(bit, bitmap));
lockless_algorithm_end(bitmap, bitmap_size(nbits));
And, of course, as I suggested a couple iterations ago, you can invent
a thread-safe version of find_bit(), that would be perfectly correct
for lockless use:
unsigned long _find_and_clear_bit(volatile unsigned long *addr, unsigned long size)
{
unsigned long bit = 0;
while (!test_and_clear_bit(bit, bitmap) {
bit = FIND_FIRST_BIT(addr[idx], /* nop */, size);
if (bit >= size)
return size;
}
return bit;
}
Didn't test that, but I hope 'volatile' specifier should be enough
for compiler to realize that it shouldn't optimize memory access, and
for KCSAN that everything's OK here.
By the way, thank you for respectful and professional communication.
Thanks,
Yury
