On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 01:04:14PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: > On Fri, 2023-07-07 at 12:48 -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 12:26:19PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: > > > On Fri, 2023-07-07 at 05:18 -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: > [...] > > > > In that offlist thread, I don't recall much in the way of actual, > > > > concrete concerns. I do recall Christoph doing his usual schpiel; > > > > and to be clear, I cut short my interactions with Christoph > > > > because in nearly 15 years of kernel development he's never been > > > > anything but hostile to anything I've posted, and the criticisms > > > > he posts tend to be vague and unaware of the surrounding > > > > discussion, not anything actionable. > > > > > > This too is a red flag. Working with difficult people is one of a > > > maintainer's jobs as well. Christoph has done an enormous amount > > > of highly productive work over the years. Sure, he's prickly and > > > sure there have been fights, but everyone except you seems to > > > manage to patch things up and accept his contributions. If it were > > > just one personal problem it might be overlookable, but you seem to > > > be having major fights with the maintainer of every subsystem you > > > touch... > > > > James, I will bend over backwards to work with people who will work > > to continue the technical discussion. > > You will? Because that doesn't seem to align with your statement about > Christoph being "vague and unaware of the surrounding discussions" and > not posting "anything actionable" for the last 15 years. No-one else > has that impression and we've almost all had run-ins with Christoph at > some point. If I'm going to respond to this I'd have to start citing interactions and I don't want to dig things that deep in public. Can we either try to resolve this privately or drop it?