On Wed 07-06-23 09:31:10, Darrick J. Wong wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 04:14:30PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote: > > On Mon 22-05-23 16:42:00, Darrick J. Wong wrote: > > > How about this as an alternative patch? Kernel and userspace freeze > > > state are stored in s_writers; each type cannot block the other (though > > > you still can't have nested kernel or userspace freezes); and the freeze > > > is maintained until /both/ freeze types are dropped. > > > > > > AFAICT this should work for the two other usecases (quiescing pagefaults > > > for fsdax pmem pre-removal; and freezing fses during suspend) besides > > > online fsck for xfs. > > > > > > --D > > > > > > From: Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > Subject: fs: distinguish between user initiated freeze and kernel initiated freeze > > > > > > Userspace can freeze a filesystem using the FIFREEZE ioctl or by > > > suspending the block device; this state persists until userspace thaws > > > the filesystem with the FITHAW ioctl or resuming the block device. > > > Since commit 18e9e5104fcd ("Introduce freeze_super and thaw_super for > > > the fsfreeze ioctl") we only allow the first freeze command to succeed. > > > > > > The kernel may decide that it is necessary to freeze a filesystem for > > > its own internal purposes, such as suspends in progress, filesystem fsck > > > activities, or quiescing a device prior to removal. Userspace thaw > > > commands must never break a kernel freeze, and kernel thaw commands > > > shouldn't undo userspace's freeze command. > > > > > > Introduce a couple of freeze holder flags and wire it into the > > > sb_writers state. One kernel and one userspace freeze are allowed to > > > coexist at the same time; the filesystem will not thaw until both are > > > lifted. > > > > > > Inspired-by: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > Signed-off-by: Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Yes, this is exactly how I'd imagine it. Thanks for writing the patch! > > > > I'd just note that this would need rebasing on top of Luis' patches 1 and > > 2. Also: > > > > > + if (sbw->frozen == SB_FREEZE_COMPLETE) { > > > + switch (who) { > > > + case FREEZE_HOLDER_KERNEL: > > > + if (sbw->freeze_holders & FREEZE_HOLDER_KERNEL) { > > > + /* > > > + * Kernel freeze already in effect; caller can > > > + * try again. > > > + */ > > > + deactivate_locked_super(sb); > > > + return -EBUSY; > > > + } > > > + if (sbw->freeze_holders & FREEZE_HOLDER_USERSPACE) { > > > + /* > > > + * Share the freeze state with the userspace > > > + * freeze already in effect. > > > + */ > > > + sbw->freeze_holders |= who; > > > + deactivate_locked_super(sb); > > > + return 0; > > > + } > > > + break; > > > + case FREEZE_HOLDER_USERSPACE: > > > + if (sbw->freeze_holders & FREEZE_HOLDER_USERSPACE) { > > > + /* > > > + * Userspace freeze already in effect; tell > > > + * the caller we're busy. > > > + */ > > > + deactivate_locked_super(sb); > > > + return -EBUSY; > > > + } > > > + if (sbw->freeze_holders & FREEZE_HOLDER_KERNEL) { > > > + /* > > > + * Share the freeze state with the kernel > > > + * freeze already in effect. > > > + */ > > > + sbw->freeze_holders |= who; > > > + deactivate_locked_super(sb); > > > + return 0; > > > + } > > > + break; > > > + default: > > > + BUG(); > > > + deactivate_locked_super(sb); > > > + return -EINVAL; > > > + } > > > + } > > > > Can't this be simplified to: > > > > BUG_ON(who & ~(FREEZE_HOLDER_USERSPACE | FREEZE_HOLDER_KERNEL)); > > BUG_ON(!(!(who & FREEZE_HOLDER_USERSPACE) ^ > > !(who & FREEZE_HOLDER_KERNEL))); > > retry: > > if (sb->s_writers.freeze_holders & who) > > return -EBUSY; > > /* Already frozen by someone else? */ > > if (sb->s_writers.freeze_holders & ~who) { > > sb->s_writers.freeze_holders |= who; > > return 0; > > } > > > > Now the only remaining issue with the code is that the two different > > holders can be attempting to freeze the filesystem at once and in that case > > one of them has to wait for the other one instead of returning -EBUSY as > > would happen currently. This can happen because we temporarily drop > > s_umount in freeze_super() due to lock ordering issues. I think we could > > do something like: > > > > if (!sb_unfrozen(sb)) { > > up_write(&sb->s_umount); > > wait_var_event(&sb->s_writers.frozen, > > sb_unfrozen(sb) || sb_frozen(sb)); > > down_write(&sb->s_umount); > > goto retry; > > } > > > > and then sprinkle wake_up_var(&sb->s_writers.frozen) at appropriate places > > in freeze_super(). > > If we implemented this behavior change, it ought to be a separate patch. > > For the case where the kernel is freezing the fs and userspace wants to > start freezing the fs, we could make userspace wait and then share the > kernel freeze. Yes. > For any case where the fs is !unfrozen and the kernel wants to start > freezing the fs, I think I'd rather return EBUSY immediately and let the > caller decide to wait and/or call back. Possibly, although I thought that if userspace has frozen the fs and kernel wants to freeze, we want to return success? At least that was what I think your patches were doing. And then I don't see the point why we should be returning EBUSY if userspace is in the middle of the freeze. So what's the intended semantics? > For the case where one userspace thread is freezing the fs and another > userspace thread wants to start freezing the fs, I think the current > behavior of returning EBUSY immediately is ok. Yes. Honza -- Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxxx> SUSE Labs, CR