On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 9:44 PM Alexei Starovoitov
<alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> My point that the kernel can help here.
> Since folks don't like sysctl to control FD assignment how about something like this:
No. Really.
The only thing that needs to happen is that people need to *know* that
fd's 0/1/2 are not at all special.
The thing is, it's even *traditional* to do something like
close(0);
close(1);
close(2);
and fork() twice (exiting the first child after the second fork).
Usually you'd also make sure to re-set umask, and do a setsid() to
make sure you're not part of the controlling terminal any more.
Now, some people would then redirect /dev/null to those file
descriptors, but not always: file descriptors used to be a fairly
limited resource. So people would *want* to use all the file
descriptors they could for whatever server connections they
implemented. Including, very much, fd 0.
So really. There is not a way in hell we will *EVER* consider fd 0 to
be special. It isn't, it never has been, and it never shall be.
Instead, just spread the word that fd 0 isn't special.
The fact that you think that some completely broken C++ code was
"written with high quality", and you think that is an excuse for
garbage is just sad.
Those C++ libraries WERE INCREDIBLE CRAP. They were buggy garbage. And
no, they are in no way going to affect the kernel and make the kernel
do stupid and wrong things.
Linus
