Re: [PATCH 1/2] btrfs: Introduce the virtual_fsid feature

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On 2023/5/9 06:59, Guilherme G. Piccoli wrote:
On 05/05/2023 20:00, David Sterba wrote:
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Hi David, thanks for your suggestion!

It might be possible, it seems a valid suggestion. But worth notice that
we cannot modify the FS at all. That's why I've implemented the feature
in a way it "fakes" the fsid for the driver, as a mount option, but
nothing changes in the FS.

The images on Deck are read-only. So, by using the metadata_uuid purely,
can we mount 2 identical images at the same time *not modifying* the
filesystem in any way? If it's possible, then we have only to implement
the skip scanning idea from Qu in the other thread (or else ioclt scans
would prevent mounting them).

Ok, I see, the device is read-only. The metadata_uuid is now set on an
unmounted filesystem and we don't have any semantics for a mount option.

If there's an equivalent mount option (let's say metadata_uuid for
compatibility) with the same semantics as if set offline, on the first
commit the metadata_uuid would be written.

The question is if this would be sane for read-only devices. You've
implemented the uuid on the metadata_uuid base but named it differently,
but this effectively means that metadata_uuid could work on read-only
devices too, but with some necessary updates to the device scanning.

 From the use case perspective this should work, the virtual uuid would
basically be the metadata_uuid set and on a read-only device. The
problems start in the state transitions in the device tracking, we had
some bugs there and the code is hard to grasp. For that I'd very much
vote for using the metadata_uuid but we can provide an interface on top
of that to make it work.

OK, being completely honest here, I couldn't parse fully what you're
proposing - I blame it to my lack of knowledge on btrfs, so apologies heh

Could you clarify it a bit more? Are you suggesting we somewhat rework
"metadata_uuid", to kinda overload its meaning to be able to accomplish
this same-fsid mounting using "metadata_uuid" purely?

I see that we seem to have 3 proposals here:

(a) The compat_ro flag from Qu;

(b) Your idea (that requires some clarification for my fully
understanding - thanks in advance!);

(c) Renaming the mount option "virtual_fsid" to "nouuid" to keep
filesystem consistency, like XFS (courtesy of Dave Chinner) - please
correct me here if I misunderstood you Dave =)

To me, (a) and (c) don't conflict at all.

We can allow "nouuid" only to work with SINGLE_DEV compat_ro.

That compat_ro flags is more like a better guarantee that the fs will
never have more disks.

As even with SINGLE_DEV compat_ro flags, we may still want some checks
to prevent the same fs being RW mounted at different instances, which
can cause other problems, thus dedicated "nouuid" may still be needed.

Thanks,
Qu


I'd like to thank you all for the suggestions, and I'm willing to follow
the preferred one - as long we have a consensus / blessing from the
maintainers, I'm happy to rework this as the best possible approach for
btrfs.

Also, what about patch 2, does it make sense or should we kinda "embed"
the idea of scan skipping into the same-fsid mounting? Per my current
understanding, the idea (a) from Qu includes/fixes the scan thing and
makes patch 2 unnecessary.

Thanks,


Guilherme




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