On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 02:24:13PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote: > On 23.01.23 14:19, David Howells wrote: > > David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Switching from FOLL_GET to FOLL_PIN was in the works by John H. Not sure what > > > the status is. Interestingly, Documentation/core-api/pin_user_pages.rst > > > already documents that "CASE 1: Direct IO (DIO)" uses FOLL_PIN ... which does, > > > unfortunately, no reflect reality yet. > > > > Yeah - I just came across that. > > > > Should iov_iter.c then switch entirely to using pin_user_pages(), rather than > > get_user_pages()? In which case my patches only need keep track of > > pinned/not-pinned and never "got". > > That would be the ideal case: whenever intending to access page content, use > FOLL_PIN instead of FOLL_GET. > > The issue that John was trying to sort out was that there are plenty of > callsites that do a simple put_page() instead of calling unpin_user_page(). > IIRC, handling that correctly in existing code -- what was pinned must be > released via unpin_user_page() -- was the biggest workitem. > > Not sure how that relates to your work here (that's why I was asking): if > you could avoid FOLL_GET, that would be great :) Take a good look at iter_to_pipe(). It does *not* need to pin anything (we have an ITER_SOURCE there); with this approach it will. And it will stuff those pinned references into a pipe, where they can sit indefinitely. IOW, I don't believe it's a usable approach.