[+fsdevel] > > I swear I'll send all these some day, if I ever get caught up... > Delegating LTS maintenance is a big help, but as it is I still can't > stay abreast of all the mainline patchsets /and/ send my own stuff. :( I have to repeat what I said in LSFMM about the LTP project and what fstests could be like. Companies put dedicated engineers to work as proactive LTP maintainers. There is absolutely no reason that companies won't do the same for fstests. If only every large corp. that employs >10 fs developers will assign a halftime engineer for fstests maintenance, their fs developer's work would become so much more productive and their fs product will become more reliable. I think the fact that this is not happening is a failure on our part to communicate that to our managers. >From my experience, if you had sent stuff like your fstests cleanups to the LTP maintainers and ask for their help to land it, they would thank you for the work you did and take care of all the testing on all platforms and fixing all the code style and framework issues. LTP maintainers constantly work on improving the framework and providing more features to test writers as well as on converting old tests to use new infrastructure. Stuff like Dave's work on sorting up the cleanup mess or the groups cleanup and groups speedup - all of those do not have to add load to busy maintainers - life can be different! Taking responsibility away from developers to deliver their own tests is a slippery slope, but getting help and working together is essential for offloading work from busy maintainers. Thanks, Amir.