On Wed, Jun 01, 2022 at 11:34:18AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 11:25 AM Alexey Gladkov <legion@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I'm not sure how to get rid of ctl_table since net sysctls are heavily > > dependent on it. > > I don't actually think it's worth getting rid of entirely, because > there's just a lot of simple cases where it "JustWorks(tm)" and having > just that table entry describe all the semantics is not wrong at all. > > The name may suck, but hey, it's not a big deal. Changing it now would > be more pain than it's worth. > > No, I was more thinking that things that already need more > infrastructure than that simple static ctl_table entry might be better > off trying to migrate to your new "proper read op" model, and having > more of that dynamic behavior in the read op. This was part of my plan. I wanted to step by step try migrating other sysctls to use open/read/write where it makes sense. To be honest, it was Eric Biederman who came up with the idea to separate open, read and write. I am very grateful to him. > The whole "create dynamic ctl_table entries on the fly" model works, > but it's kind of ugly. > > Anyway, I think all of this is "I think there is more room for cleanup > in this area", and maybe we'll never have enough motivation to > actually do that. > > Your patches seem to fix the extant issue with the ipc namespace, and > the truly disgusting parts (although maybe there are other truly > disgusting things hiding - I didn't go look for them). I also hope to try and fix the f_cred issue. -- Rgrds, legion