Re: [RFC] Volatile fanotify marks

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On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:13 PM Tycho Kirchner <tychokirchner@xxxxxxx> wrote:

All right, I thought a bit more about that and returned to your
original BPF idea you mentioned on 2020-08-28:

I was thinking that we could add a BPF hook to fanotify_handle_event()
(similar to what's happening in packet filtering code) and you could attach
BPF programs to this hook to do filtering of events. That way we don't have
to introduce new group flags for various filtering options. The question is
whether eBPF is strong enough so that filters useful for fanotify users
could be implemented with it but this particular check seems implementable.

                                                                Honza

Instead of changing fanotify's filesystem notification functionality,
I suggest to rather **add a tracing mode (fantrace)**.

The synchronous handling of syscalls via ptrace is of course required
for debugging purposes, however that introduces a major slowdown (even
with seccomp-bpf filters). There are a number of cases, including
[1-3], where async processing of file events of specific tasks would be
fine but is not readily available in Linux. Fanotify already ships
important infrastructure in this regard: it provides very fast
event-buffering and, by using file descriptors instead of resolved
paths, a clean and race-free API to process the events later. However,
as already stated, fanotify does not provide a clean way, to monitor
only a subset of tasks. Therefore please consider the following
proposed architecture of fantrace:

Each taks gets its own struct fsnotify_group. Within
fsnotify.c:fsnotify() it is checked if the given task has a
fsnotify_group attached where events of interest are buffered as usual.
Note that this is an additional hook - sysadmins being subscribed to
filesystem events rather than task-filesystem-events are notified as
usual - in that case two hooks possibly run. The fsnotify_group is
extended by a field optionally pointing to a BPF program which allows
for custom filters to be run.

Some implementation details:
- To let the tracee return quickly, run BPF filter program within tracer
     context during read(fan_fd) but before events are copied to userspace
- only one fantracer per task, which overrides existing ones if any
- task->fsnotify_group refcount increment on fork, decrement on exit (run
     after exit_files(tsk) to not miss final close events). When last task
     exited, send EOF to listener.
- on exec of seuid-programs the fsnotify_group is cleared (like in ptrace)
- lazy check when event occurs, if listener is still alive (refcount > 1)
- for the beginning, to keep things simple and to "solve" the cleanup of
     filesystem marks, I suggest to disable i_fsnotify_marks for fantrace
     (only allow FAN_MARK_FILESYSTEM), as that functionality can be
     implemented within the user-provided BPF-program.


Maybe I am slow, but I did not understand the need for this task fsnotify_group.

What's wrong with Jan's suggestion? (add a BPF hook to fanotify_handle_event())
that hook is supposed to filter by pid so why all this extra complexity?

We may consider the option to have another BFP hook when reading
events if there is
good justification, but subtree filters will have to be in handle_event().

Thanks,
Amir.

To be a reasonable async replacement for ptrace (see e.g. mentioned reprozip)
file-events from all paths have to be reported, which is difficult
using i_fsnotify_marks, because
- marking whole mountpoints requires privileges
- marking the whole filesystem using directory marks is unfeasible

However, we need a quick way to find out, if a file event is of
interest (find its beloning fsnotify_group). For the purpose of tracing
it appears reasonable to consider all file events of a traced task as
"interesting" in the first place. So, in this way, we allow a user to
trace file events of his own tasks without slowing down other,
non-traced tasks.

After all, it's all about the order of running filters - first inode,
then pid or reverse. With my proposed architecture for the purpose of
tracing I would hand the inode-filter to the user in form of an
optional BPF hook. Performance-wise that's also the "fair" solution.
Let's assume we allow marking the whole filesystem (via mountpoints).
Now, the BPF-pid-filter code has to run for every single file event (of
all users!), if multiple users trace the filesystem even multiple hooks
have to run, slowing down the whole system.


I understand now what you were trying to do, but still not convinced
that the added complexity to the kernel is worth it, because you may be
able to achieve the same with userspace LD_PRELOAD hooking.

In fact, I use that approach in shournal's fanotify backend, as the
shell process cannot join the mount namespace of the currently executing
command (without re-exec). See here, for example:
https://github.com/tycho-kirchner/shournal/blob/master/src/shell-integration-fanotify/libshournal-shellwatch.cpp

However, while this works for the supported shells bash and zsh,
the LD_PRELOAD approach in general is problematic:

- Static compiled executables cannot be traced (rare, ptrace with
  seccomp-bpf filters might be ok for those)
- killed tasks may still have fd's open, so signals also have to be hooked.
  SIGKILL or crashing tasks (e.g. segfault) cannot be handled at all (though
  this would be ok)
- close- or other library-calls are potentially inlined. Some programs may
  even use syscalls directly (probably a rare issue, but I'm not sure)
- quite some hooks required: close, fclose (glibc does not use the close wrapper),
  fcloseall, dup2, dup3, exit, _exit and possibly others

Actually, this sounds more of a complexity. I guess I could make a
proof-of-principle implementation of my proposed fantrace in a few days,
but of course this makes only sense if there is a slight chance this
could be accepted.


BTW, the fanotify_userns patch set [1] was an attempt to allow unprivileged
user watch over subtree with low performance impact on the rest of the
file system.
This is not exactly what you need, but maybe it could be made
into what you need.
[1] https://github.com/amir73il/linux/commits/fanotify_userns

I'll take at look, but while I'm fine in compiling a custom kernel
users of my tool are not. Further, using user namespaces in the
outermost shell layer (where my tool runs) is problematic for
administrators or users of setuid binaries.

Thanks,
Tycho




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