Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Boaz Harrosh wrote: >> Arnd Bergmann wrote: >>> No, the compiler is correct, it has to generate more complex code >>> if it cannot assume that data is naturally aligned and the architecture >>> does not support unaligned loads. If you don't understand this, please >>> at least read the list archives about the last five times this came up >>> before claiming that the compiler is broken. >>> >> Wrong!! Sorry, you guys don't listen. >> I'm talking of the case where the structures are EXACTLY the same anyway >> you look at them. sizeof(foo) == sizeof(foo_packed) and >> offsetof(foo_memmber) == offsetof(foo_packed_member) for every member of >> the structure. foo && foo_packed are declared exactly the same but with >> __attribute__((packed(1))) applied to the later. >> >> THEN in ia64 case the compiler is brain dead, because it relates >> "unalignment" to packed(1) which are two different things. > > The natural alignment of a structure is max(alignment(member)), for all > members. With __attribute__((packed)), the natural alignment of the structure > is 1, so the compiler cannot assume anything. > No the natural alignment is what it is, after the application of __attribute__((packed(1))). In a well defined structure that is a no-opt. But yes in ai64 the gcc programmers got lazy and did not make that analysis after laying out the structure. > While the ints in the structure may still be at offsets 0, 4, 8, and so on, > this doesn't say anything about their actual memory addresses, as the struct > base address itself may be unaligned. > The base address can be unaligned even if the structure is aligned. In that case you need the __atrubute__((aligned)) thingy. It is true that if the sizeof(foo_packed) is though unaligned, the compiler will have to assume unalignment in array operations. but if the sizeof(foo_packed) is naturally aligned at the output then the compiler has all the needed information to know that even if I declared __packed, it calculated and knows that it is well aligned at the end. > Gr{oetje,eeting}s, > > Geert > Please note that I gave up on the compiler and understand that the use of __packed is dangerous in some cases, sigh. My standing point is to make sure there are no guesses left, and a BUILD_BUG_ON to make sure of that. Boaz -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html