On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 4:36 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 06:49:24PM +0200, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote: > > Introduce a new FOLL_NOFAULT flag that causes get_user_pages to return > > -EFAULT when it would otherwise trigger a page fault. This is roughly > > similar to FOLL_FAST_ONLY but available on all architectures, and less > > fragile. > > So, FOLL_FAST_ONLY only has one single user through > get_user_pages_fast_only (pin_user_pages_fast_only is entirely unused, > which makes totally sense given that give up on fault and pin are not > exactly useful semantics). So I think we should treat FOLL_FAST_ONLY as a special "internal to gup.c" flag, and perhaps not really compare it to the new FOLL_NOFAULT. In fact, maybe we could even just make FOLL_FAST_ONLY be the high bit, and not expose it in <linux/mm.h> and make it entirely private as a name in gup.c. Because FOLL_FAST_ONLY really is meant more as a "this way we can share code easily inside gup.c, by having the internal helpers that *can* do everything, but not do it all when the user is one of the limited interfaces". Because we don't really expect people to use FOLL_FAST_ONLY externally - they'll use the explicit interfaces we have instead (ie "get_user_pages_fast()"). Those use-cases that want that fast-only thing really are so special that they need to be very explicitly so. FOLL_NOFAULT is different, in that that is something an external user _would_ use. Admittedly we'd only have one single case for now, but I think we may end up with other filesystems - or other cases entirely - having that same kind of "I am holding locks, so I can't fault into the MM, but I'm otherwise ok with the immediate mmap_sem lock usage and sleeping". End result: FOLL_FAST_ONLY and FOLL_NOFAULT have some similarities, but at the same time I think they are fundamentally different. The FAST_ONLY is the very very special "I can't sleep, I can't even take the fundamental MM lock, and we export special interfaces because it's _so_ special and can be used in interrupts etc". In contrast, NOFAULT is not _that_ special. It's just another flag, and has generic use. Linus