On Mon, 2021-06-14 at 09:32 +0800, Ian Kent wrote: > On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 01:45 +0000, Al Viro wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 04:51:22PM +0800, Ian Kent wrote: > > > The inode operations .permission() and .getattr() use the kernfs > > > node > > > write lock but all that's needed is to keep the rb tree stable > > > while > > > updating the inode attributes as well as protecting the update > > > itself > > > against concurrent changes. > > > > Huh? Where does it access the rbtree at all? Confused... > > > > > diff --git a/fs/kernfs/inode.c b/fs/kernfs/inode.c > > > index 3b01e9e61f14e..6728ecd81eb37 100644 > > > --- a/fs/kernfs/inode.c > > > +++ b/fs/kernfs/inode.c > > > @@ -172,6 +172,7 @@ static void kernfs_refresh_inode(struct > > > kernfs_node *kn, struct inode *inode) > > > { > > > struct kernfs_iattrs *attrs = kn->iattr; > > > > > > + spin_lock(&inode->i_lock); > > > inode->i_mode = kn->mode; > > > if (attrs) > > > /* > > > @@ -182,6 +183,7 @@ static void kernfs_refresh_inode(struct > > > kernfs_node *kn, struct inode *inode) > > > > > > if (kernfs_type(kn) == KERNFS_DIR) > > > set_nlink(inode, kn->dir.subdirs + 2); > > > + spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock); > > > } > > > > Even more so - just what are you serializing here? That code > > synchronizes inode > > metadata with those in kernfs_node. Suppose you've got two threads > > doing > > ->permission(); the first one gets through kernfs_refresh_inode() > > and > > goes into > > generic_permission(). No locks are held, so kernfs_refresh_inode() > > from another > > thread can run in parallel with generic_permission(). > > > > If that's not a problem, why two kernfs_refresh_inode() done in > > parallel would > > be a problem? > > > > Thread 1: > > permission > > done refresh, all locks released now > > Thread 2: > > change metadata in kernfs_node > > Thread 2: > > permission > > goes into refresh, copying metadata into inode > > Thread 1: > > generic_permission() > > No locks in common between the last two operations, so > > we generic_permission() might see partially updated metadata. > > Either we don't give a fuck (in which case I don't understand > > what purpose does that ->i_lock serve) *or* we need the exclusion > > to cover a wider area. > > This didn't occur to me, obviously. > > It seems to me this can happen with the original code too although > using a mutex might reduce the likelihood of it happening. > > Still ->permission() is meant to be a read-only function so the VFS > shouldn't need to care about it. > > Do you have any suggestions on how to handle this. > Perhaps the only way is to ensure the inode is updated only in > functions that are expected to do this. IIRC Greg and Tejun weren't averse to adding a field to the struct kernfs_iattrs, but there were concerns about increasing memory usage. Because of this I think the best way to handle this would be to broaden the scope of the i_lock to cover the generic calls in kernfs_iop_getattr() and kernfs_iop_permission(). The only other call to kernfs_refresh_inode() is at inode initialization and then only for I_NEW inodes so that should be ok. Also both generic_permission() and generic_fillattr() are reading from the inode so not likely to need to take the i_lock any time soon (is this a reasonable assumption Al?). Do you think this is a sensible way to go Al? Ian