On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 16:11 +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 07:58:10AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > > On Thu, 2021-05-27 at 15:29 +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 03:23:03PM +0200, Christoph Lameter > > > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > > > > > > > > I know we're all really hungry for some in-person meetups and > > > > > discussions, but at least for LPC, Kernel Summit, and > > > > > Maintainer's Summit, we're going to have to wait for another > > > > > year, > > > > > > > > Well now that we are vaccinated: Can we still change it? > > > > > > > > > > Speak for yourself, remember that Europe and other parts of the > > > world are not as "flush" with vaccines as the US currently is :( > > > > The rollout is accelerating in Europe. At least in Germany, I know > > people younger than me are already vaccinated. I think by the end > > of September the situation will be better ... especially if the EU > > and US agree on this air bridge (and the US actually agrees to let > > EU people in). > > > > One of the things Plumbers is thinking of is having a meetup at > > what was OSS EU but which is now in Seattle. The Maintainer's > > summit could do the same thing. We couldn't actually hold Plumbers > > in Seattle because the hotels still had masks and distancing > > requirements for events that effectively precluded the > > collaborative aspects of microconferences, but evening events will > > be governed by local protocols, rather than the Hotel, which are > > already more relaxed. > > Umm. Let's remember that the vaccines are 33-93% effective [1], > which means that there's approximately a 100% certainty that at least > one person arriving at the event from a trans-atlantic flight has > been exposed to someone who has the virus. I'm not convinced that > holding a "more relaxed protocol" event is a great idea. Well, I'm not going to get into a debate over the effectiveness of the current vaccines. I will say that all conferences have to now recognize that a sizeable proportion of former attendees will have fears about travelling and therefore remote components are going to be a fixture of conferences going forward. However, while we should accommodate them, we can't let these fears override people willing to take the risk and meet in person. James
