On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 03:27:48PM -0700, Omar Sandoval wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 02:32:47PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:35 AM Omar Sandoval <osandov@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Patches 1-3 add the VFS support, UAPI, and documentation. Patches 4-7 > > > are Btrfs prep patches. Patch 8 adds Btrfs encoded read support and > > > patch 9 adds Btrfs encoded write support. > > > > I don't love the RWF_ENCODED flag, but if that's the way people think > > this should be done, as a model this looks reasonable to me. > > > > I'm not sure what the deal with the encryption metadata is. I realize > > there is currently only one encryption type ("none") in this series, > > but it's not clear how any other encryption type would actually ever > > be described. It's not like you can pass in the key (well, I guess > > passing in the key would be fine, but passing it back out certainly > > would not be). A key ID from a keyring? > > > > So there's presumably some future plan for it, but it would be good to > > verify that that plan makes sense.. > > What I'm imagining for fscrypt is: > > 1. Add ENCODED_IOV_ENCRYPTION_* types for fscrypt. Consumers at least > need to be able to distinguish between encryption policy versions, > DIRECT_KEY policies, and IV_INO_LBLK_{64,32} policies, and maybe > other details. > 2. Use RWF_ENCODED only for the data itself. > 3. Add new fscrypt ioctls to get and set the encryption key. > > The interesting part is (3). If I'm reading the fscrypt documentation > correctly, in the default mode, each file is encrypted with a per-file > key that is a function of the master key for the directory tree and a > per-file nonce. > > Userspace manages the master key, we have a FS_IOC_GET_ENCRYPTION_NONCE > ioctl, and the key derivation function is documented. So, userspace > already has all of the pieces it needs to get the encryption key, and > all of the information it needs to decrypt the data it gets from > RWF_ENCODED if it so desires. > > On the set/write side, the user can set the same master key and policy > with FS_IOC_SET_ENCRYPTION_POLICY, and we'd need something like an > FS_IOC_SET_ENCRYPTION_NONCE ioctl (possibly with a requirement that it > be set when the file is empty). I think that's it. > > The details will vary for the other fscrypt policies, but that's the > gist of it. I added the fscrypt maintainers to correct me if I missed > something. > Well, assuming we're talking about regular files only (so file contents encryption, not filenames encryption), with fscrypt the information needed to understand a file's encrypted data is the following: 1. The encryption key 2. The filesystem's block size 3. The encryption context: struct fscrypt_context_v2 { u8 version; /* FSCRYPT_CONTEXT_V2 */ u8 contents_encryption_mode; u8 filenames_encryption_mode; u8 flags; u8 __reserved[4]; u8 master_key_identifier[FSCRYPT_KEY_IDENTIFIER_SIZE]; u8 nonce[FSCRYPT_FILE_NONCE_SIZE]; }; (Or alternatively struct fscrypt_policy_v2 + the nonce field separately; that results in the same fields as struct fscrypt_context_v2.) This is definitely more complex than the compression cases like "the data is a zlib stream". So the question is, how much of this metadata (if any) should actually be passed around during RWF_ENCODED pread/pwrite operations, and how much should be out-of-band. I feel like this should be mostly out-of-band (e.g. via the existing ioctls FS_IOC_{GET,SET}_ENCRYPTION_POLICY), especially given that compression and encryption could be combined which would make describing the on-disk data even more difficult. But I'm not sure what you intended. - Eric