Re: [PATCH v6 10/10] Documentation: Add documentation for VDUSE

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在 2021/4/16 上午10:58, Yongji Xie 写道:
On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 10:20 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

在 2021/4/15 下午7:17, Yongji Xie 写道:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 5:05 PM Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
在 2021/4/15 下午4:36, Jason Wang 写道:
Please state this explicitly at the start of the document. Existing
interfaces like FUSE are designed to avoid trusting userspace.
There're some subtle difference here. VDUSE present a device to kernel
which means IOMMU is probably the only thing to prevent a malicous
device.


Therefore
people might think the same is the case here. It's critical that people
are aware of this before deploying VDUSE with virtio-vdpa.

We should probably pause here and think about whether it's possible to
avoid trusting userspace. Even if it takes some effort and costs some
performance it would probably be worthwhile.
Since the bounce buffer is used the only attack surface is the
coherent area, if we want to enforce stronger isolation we need to use
shadow virtqueue (which is proposed in earlier version by me) in this
case. But I'm not sure it's worth to do that.

So this reminds me the discussion in the end of last year. We need to
make sure we don't suffer from the same issues for VDUSE at least

https://yhbt.net/lore/all/c3629a27-3590-1d9f-211b-c0b7be152b32@xxxxxxxxxx/T/#mc6b6e2343cbeffca68ca7a97e0f473aaa871c95b

Or we can solve it at virtio level, e.g remember the dma address instead
of depending on the addr in the descriptor ring

I might miss something. But VDUSE has recorded the dma address during
dma mapping, so we would not do bouncing if the addr/length is invalid
during dma unmapping. Is it enough?

E.g malicous device write a buggy dma address in the descriptor ring, so
we had:

vring_unmap_one_split(desc->addr, desc->len)
      dma_unmap_single()
          vduse_dev_unmap_page()
              vduse_domain_bounce()

And in vduse_domain_bounce() we had:

          while (size) {
                  map = &domain->bounce_maps[iova >> PAGE_SHIFT];
                  offset = offset_in_page(iova);
                  sz = min_t(size_t, PAGE_SIZE - offset, size);

This means we trust the iova which is dangerous and exacly the issue
mentioned in the above link.

  From VDUSE level need to make sure iova is legal.

I think we already do that in vduse_domain_bounce():

     while (size) {
         map = &domain->bounce_maps[iova >> PAGE_SHIFT];

         if (WARN_ON(!map->bounce_page ||
             map->orig_phys == INVALID_PHYS_ADDR))
             return;


So you don't check whether iova is legal before using it, so it's at least a possible out of bound access of the bounce_maps[] isn't it? (e.g what happens if iova is ULLONG_MAX).




  From virtio level, we should not truse desc->addr.

We would not touch desc->addr after vring_unmap_one_split(). So I'm
not sure what we need to do at the virtio level.


I think the point is to record the dma addres/len somewhere instead of reading them from descriptor ring.

Thanks



Thanks,
Yongji





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