On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 03:32:38PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Al Viro <viro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 11:13:38AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:05 AM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > > >> > - struct file * file = xchg(&fdt->fd[i], NULL); > >> > + struct file * file = fdt->fd[i]; > >> > if (file) { > >> > + rcu_assign_pointer(fdt->fd[i], NULL); > >> > >> This makes me nervous. Why did we use to do that xchg() there? That > >> has atomicity guarantees that now are gone. > >> > >> Now, this whole thing should be called for just the last ref of the fd > >> table, so presumably that atomicity was never needed in the first > >> place. But the fact that we did that very expensive xchg() then makes > >> me go "there's some reason for it". > >> > >> Is this xchg() just bogus historical leftover? It kind of looks that > >> way. But maybe that change should be done separately? > > > > I'm still not convinced that exposing close_files() to parallel > > 3rd-party accesses is safe in all cases, so this patch still needs > > more analysis. > > That is fine. I just wanted to post the latest version so we could > continue the discussion. Especially with comments etc. It's probably safe. I've spent today digging through the mess in fs/notify and kernel/bpf, and while I'm disgusted with both, at that point I believe that close_files() exposure is not going to create problems with either. And xchg() in there _is_ useless. Said that, BPF "file iterator" stuff is potentially very unpleasant - it allows to pin a struct file found in any process' descriptor table indefinitely long. Temporary struct file references grabbed by procfs code, while unfortunate, are at least short-lived; with this stuff sky's the limit. I'm not happy about having that available, especially if it's a user-visible primitive we can't withdraw at zero notice ;-/ What are the users of that thing and is there any chance to replace it with something saner? IOW, what *is* realistically called for each struct file by the users of that iterator?