Re: minix/ext2 + rd problem

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Dear Nick,

Sorry for my stupid question, but how can i flush a blockdev? If i can do it without unmounting the fs i will be happy.

Thanks in advance,


Kojedzinszky Richard
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Nick Piggin wrote:

Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:05:23 +0200
From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@xxxxxxx>
To: Richard Kojedzinszky <krichy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: linux-ext4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-fsdevel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: minix/ext2 + rd problem

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:19:44AM +0200, Richard Kojedzinszky wrote:
dear nick,

i have tried a sync after the remount, but that did not help. what helped
is dropping the cache by echoing 3 to /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches, but this
still didnt solve the problem in 100%, only in 95% of the cases.

But when i read the device with
# dd if=/dev/ram0 iflag=direct ...
then it worked. I think this bypassed some caches, and thus read the
actual data.

But a sad result is that I experienced with it, and only with ramdisk does
it work as expected. for example with a logical volume it behaves in the
wrong way.

I've reproduced this problem (ext2 image corruption flagged in e2fsck
even though it was remounted ro and marked clean in the sb).

Issuing a sync, then drop_caches, seems to fix it here for me.

On the other hand, I also see problems with inconsistencies even after
unmounting if I hold the /dev/ram0 device open with something else (which
causes the buffer cache not to be invalidated on unmount).

I think what is happening is that the block device is being modified
without going through the buffer cache (ie. via pagecache or direct
writes), but the buffer cache doesn't get invalidated. So you get stale
data when reading from /dev/ram0.

I don't think we're going to want the overhead in the kernel to detect
these kinds of aliases. It might be reasonable to flush the blockdev
on unmount and remount,ro after syncing the filesystem.

The old rd driver's backing store was actually its buffercache, so that
particular issue wouldn't cause aliasing.

Thanks,
Nick

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