I am working on a response to this. I will send it soon. Thanks. Madhavan On 7/28/20 12:31 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote: >> On Jul 28, 2020, at 6:11 AM, madvenka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> From: "Madhavan T. Venkataraman" <madvenka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> The kernel creates the trampoline mapping without any permissions. When >> the trampoline is executed by user code, a page fault happens and the >> kernel gets control. The kernel recognizes that this is a trampoline >> invocation. It sets up the user registers based on the specified >> register context, and/or pushes values on the user stack based on the >> specified stack context, and sets the user PC to the requested target >> PC. When the kernel returns, execution continues at the target PC. >> So, the kernel does the work of the trampoline on behalf of the >> application. > This is quite clever, but now I’m wondering just how much kernel help > is really needed. In your series, the trampoline is an non-executable > page. I can think of at least two alternative approaches, and I'd > like to know the pros and cons. > > 1. Entirely userspace: a return trampoline would be something like: > > 1: > pushq %rax > pushq %rbc > pushq %rcx > ... > pushq %r15 > movq %rsp, %rdi # pointer to saved regs > leaq 1b(%rip), %rsi # pointer to the trampoline itself > callq trampoline_handler # see below > > You would fill a page with a bunch of these, possibly compacted to get > more per page, and then you would remap as many copies as needed. The > 'callq trampoline_handler' part would need to be a bit clever to make > it continue to work despite this remapping. This will be *much* > faster than trampfd. How much of your use case would it cover? For > the inverse, it's not too hard to write a bit of asm to set all > registers and jump somewhere. > > 2. Use existing kernel functionality. Raise a signal, modify the > state, and return from the signal. This is very flexible and may not > be all that much slower than trampfd. > > 3. Use a syscall. Instead of having the kernel handle page faults, > have the trampoline code push the syscall nr register, load a special > new syscall nr into the syscall nr register, and do a syscall. On > x86_64, this would be: > > pushq %rax > movq __NR_magic_trampoline, %rax > syscall > > with some adjustment if the stack slot you're clobbering is important. > > > Also, will using trampfd cause issues with various unwinders? I can > easily imagine unwinders expecting code to be readable, although this > is slowly going away for other reasons. > > All this being said, I think that the kernel should absolutely add a > sensible interface for JITs to use to materialize their code. This > would integrate sanely with LSMs and wouldn't require hacks like using > files, etc. A cleverly designed JIT interface could function without > seriailization IPIs, and even lame architectures like x86 could > potentially avoid shootdown IPIs if the interface copied code instead > of playing virtual memory games. At its very simplest, this could be: > > void *jit_create_code(const void *source, size_t len); > > and the result would be a new anonymous mapping that contains exactly > the code requested. There could also be: > > int jittfd_create(...); > > that does something similar but creates a memfd. A nicer > implementation for short JIT sequences would allow appending more code > to an existing JIT region. On x86, an appendable JIT region would > start filled with 0xCC, and I bet there's a way to materialize new > code into a previously 0xcc-filled virtual page wthout any > synchronization. One approach would be to start with: > > <some code> > 0xcc > 0xcc > ... > 0xcc > > and to create a whole new page like: > > <some code> > <some more code> > 0xcc > ... > 0xcc > > so that the only difference is that some code changed to some more > code. Then replace the PTE to swap from the old page to the new page, > and arrange to avoid freeing the old page until we're sure it's gone > from all TLBs. This may not work if <some more code> spans a page > boundary. The #BP fixup would zap the TLB and retry. Even just > directly copying code over some 0xcc bytes almost works, but there's a > nasty corner case involving instructions that fetch I$ fetch > boundaries. I'm not sure to what extent I$ snooping helps. > > --Andy