On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:03:25AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 10:45, Christian Brauner > <christian.brauner@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Add an ioctl() to return the PID of the init process/child reaper of a pid > > namespace as seen in the caller's pid namespace. > > What are the pros and cons of returning a PID FD instead of a PID? A pidfd doesn't buy you much here since you can race-free turn the PID into a pidfd via pidfd_open() right after. But mostly, I don't want to introduce the pattern of returning pidfds from all corners of the kernel especially when it's not strictly required. The central entrypoints should remain clone{3}() and pidfd_open() for now. I want to remain conservative with this until we have had more of userspace rely on them for a while and the bugs and features requests come trickling in. We've seen a good portion of that but we'll likely see more. If we need to do global changes (e.g. sending signals outside of your own pid namespace hierarchy or attaching capabilities to them) we will be in better shape if we don't return them from everywhere just yet. Christian